Cambo Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 Thanks dippy I believe he's rather friendly with the people from Garnons estate?…its out on the Brecon road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dippyhippy Posted May 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 Isn't that Harry Cotterral's place?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambo Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 Thanks dippy the Cotterral family I think one of the family members used to be lord lieutenant of herefordshire or Hereford? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megilleland Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I have sent an email to the Chairman of SAVE (West MIdlands) alerting him to what is going on in Hereford and and linking him to this topic. I will post his reply. Remember the Fire Station consultation tomorrow - I will get down there to make my views known. Wednesday 14th May at the rear of Hereford Fire Station, St Owen Street, Hereford HR1 2JW from 2pm to 8pm. Access venue from Daws Road and follow signs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megilleland Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 More historical notes: 'The Hereford and District Working Boys' Home and Certified Industrial School, Bath street, Hereford, was established in 1874 by a committee of gentlemen called together by Arthur G Levason esq. of Hereford, who is chairman, and with Mr Peyton G. Levason, joint hon. secretary; the work was commenced in a small house in Commercial road, opened by the Lord Bishop of the diocese on April 29 of that year: the present building in Bath street, holding 125 boys, is now (1913) full and maintains a full average yearly number; the foundation stone was laid by Mrs Atlay, June 14th 1876 and the premises were opened 1 Feb. 1877, and a wing, consisting of an infirmary, workshops and schoolroom, was added, the foundation stone being laid by Mrs. A. G. Levason, Aug 9th 1886; there is an assembly room called the "Meadows" Memorial, Mrs Meadows, of Aylestone hill, having presented the sum of £1,000 to the Home in 1895. The objects of the institution are to receive orphans and other voluntary cases of boys from 9 to 14 years of age in a state of destitution, or growing up uncared for, under evil influences; they are clothed, fed, taught and employment is afterwards found for them; the school is certified as an industrial school, and the boys, when not engaged in other duties, are employed in farming, gardening, shoe making, cutting firewood, basket making and cane working; Mr & Mrs Edwin Horth, superintendent and matron.' Also a list of records and documents of Hereford Society for Aiding the Industrious. Interesting to note that some items marked closed have a 100 Year Access Restriction - maybe hiding dodgy deals! Obviously someone has read them and made this decision to redact them - surely not the council? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twowheelsgood Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Nothing to do with the council - more to do with protecting the anonymity of people in need who have been helped by the Society, financially or otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twowheelsgood Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 From the H & W Fire Authority, 8 May; Work gets underway on new fire station at Great Western Business Park, Worcester St. Modwen, the UK’s leading regeneration specialist, has begun work on a new fire station at its Great Western Business Park in Worcester on behalf of Hereford & Worcester Fire Authority (HWFA). Derek Prodger MBE, chairman of Hereford & Worcester Fire and Rescue Service, added: “Our current fire station in Copenhagen Street has served us well for the last 70 years but lacks modern training facilities and is no longer fit for purpose. This new facility will enhance our service to the people of Worcester and support the work of our firefighters.†Great Western Business Park, off Tolladine road, is located half a mile from Worcester City Centre and within two miles of Junction 6 of the M5 motorway. My emphasis - if they can locate the Worcester one out of the City, why not the Hereford one? Have they considered Rotherwas, particularly given the large fires there recently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dippyhippy Posted May 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Good point Two Wheels! I would be interested to know where other towns/cities with medieval centres, have their fire stations positioned! Stratford springs to mind, and I am sure that I read a while back that a poster used to live there....if they read this, post and let us know!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ubique Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Stratford on Avon Fire Stn is located in Mason Rd , S on A , at least half a mile from the Town Centre , and not on a main road , so with Worcester ,that two Station located away from the City / Town centres, guess there must be more . Warwick do not have a Fire Station , their nearest is Leamington Spa , some 4 miles away along a very busy road . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dippyhippy Posted May 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Cheers for that Ubique! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dippyhippy Posted May 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Megilleland! That's great news! Hopefully you will get a response soon! Word has reached me, that a reporter from local radio is keen to cover this.....brilliant publicity for this campaign! And a big thanks to Colin. Without Hereford Voice, we could not have got this up and running!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megilleland Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Good point Two Wheels! I would be interested to know where other towns/cities with medieval centres, have their fire stations positioned! Stratford springs to mind, and I am sure that I read a while back that a poster used to live there....if they read this, post and let us know!! You can check the position of these fire stations on Google Maps. To see H&W fire stations and others around the UK in Street View go to Google Maps and in the search bar type in fire stations. Hit search button and zoom into map or in the panel below click on list all results. Open map to full view and click on fire station of your choice. Some are not shown ie Bromyard, but you can get the post code from the link below and paste it into search window. Hereford & Worcester Fire and Rescue Service has 27 Fire Stations strategically located across the two counties. Find a Station... The Service has five wholetime Stations based in the cities of Hereford and Worcester and the three towns of Kidderminster, Bromsgrove and Redditch. It also operates three day-crewed Stations in the Worcestershire towns of Malvern, Droitwich and Evesham The remaining Stations all operate the retained duty system, and are utilised mainly in Herefordshire, with 12 out of the 19 Retained Stations located there. North District: Bewdley | Stourport South District: Broadway | Pebworth | Pershore | Tenbury Wells | Upton upon Severn West District: Bromyard | Eardisley | Ewyas Harold | Fownhope | Kingsland | Kington | Ledbury | Leintwardine | Leominster | Peterchurch | Ross-on-Wye | Whitchurch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambo Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 No news from save today but they do have a big case just started in Liverpool so I'll give them another call tomorrow. You might be interested to read this from gloucester fire service Why do we need the new Fire Stations? There are two main reasons why we need the new Fire Stations: Response: The growing and changing population of Cheltenham and Gloucester means our fire stations are no longer located in the right places to best reach the communities they serve and will serve in the future. Regeneration: The existing buildings are no longer fit for purpose-they are old, out-of-date and costing a lot of money to maintain and repair. Response We need to ensure that our emergency response abilities match the risks we have identified to our communities, from fire and any other dangers, which fall within our area of responsibility. Improved building construction, building regulations, fire safety measures and legislation have removed many of the risks to life from fire which were at one time found in commercial, industrial, recreational ant other institutional premises. This leaves us free to concentrate on the places where deaths and injuries are still occurring-homes and the roads of Gloucestershire. Research has shown that if we are able to respond to any life-threatening incidents within 8-minutes, chances of survival are good. The current stations in Gloucester and Cheltenham are now struggling to meet this response time and the outcomes of our detailed research indicate a need to relocate as follows: • Gloucester-Replace the station on Eastern Avenue with two smaller stations one located towards the West of the City to deal with the ever- growing area around Quedgeley and another to the North of the City in the Elmbridge area. • Cheltenham-The current Keynsham Road site remains in a strategically well positioned and the proposal is to demolish this station and re-build on the same site. There is also a need for an additional location towards the Northwest of the town in the Uckington area. Regeneration Gloucester Fire Station was first opened on May 17 1956, so it is already over 50 years old. When it was first opened back in the 1950s, the fire service was a very different organisation to what it is today. The rescue of people in a non-fire situation was only carried out on a voluntary basis, with the focus being of the service almost exclusively being on putting out fires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambo Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 The station was built on its current site to meet the standards of the day. However, the characteristics of the City have changed dramatically in the last 50 years and the areas where housing exists and where people are at risk has dictated a change in our strategy. As you can see from the pictures below, time has not been kind to the old City fire station and the time is ripe for some new facilities. Cheltenham Fire Station was opened on 26 April 1960, so is 48 years old and is starting to suffer from the same problems as Gloucester. There are also issues at both stations in terms of adequate space for the needs of a modern fire-fighter, housing for appliances and training facilities. In addition, there is currently little provision for community facilities, something that will be addressed at the new stations. Gloucester Fire Station is currently costing almost £45,000 per year to maintain and repair every year, while Cheltenham Fire Station is costing more than £30,000 to maintain and repair each year. The general expected lifespan for a Fire Station is 30 years so both buildings have far exceeded their natural lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambo Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 South gloucester new fire station Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin James Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I spoke on with a good contact at Free Radio and they are keen to speak with Dippy and possibly run a feature. I have pm'd Dippy all the details. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambo Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Gloucestershire gets £40m for new fire stations Continue reading the main story Related Stories Fire services urged to co-operate Regional fire centres 'should go' The government has confirmed it will provide £40m for four new fire stations and a community centre in Gloucestershire. Gloucester fire station will be replaced with sites in Cheltenham Road East, Churchdown, and Tuffley. In Cheltenham, the Keynsham Road base will be demolished and rebuilt and a new station built at Uckington. The fire service said the stations would enable firefighters to respond to incidents more quickly. The cash had been in doubt after the government reviewed Private Finance Initiative (PFI) bids as part of the Spending Review. 'Difficult financial times' Gloucestershire County Council has now received confirmation of the funding. The life skills centre, which will be used by schoolchildren, organisations and community groups, will be based at Shepherd Road in Tuffley, Gloucester. Councillor Will Windsor-Clive, the county council's cabinet member for community safety, said: "I appreciate that some people are questioning the investment into new fire stations during these difficult financial times, but the bottom line is that they will better help us serve and protect the people of Gloucestershire and that's our priority." Construction is due to begin next month at Shepherd Road. Below pic of south gloucester fire station Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambo Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 £40million for 4 new fire stations & community centre wonder how much each new station cost? Poss £8million? How much have HWFRS got for the one they want to build on bath st?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambo Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Shrewsbury's got a new fire station too & it cost £3.65 million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambo Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 The general expected lifespan for a Fire Station is 30 years so both buildings have far exceeded their natural lives. 30 yrs is the expected lifespan of a fire station??? Are they mentalists??? Do these people think we in the public are a bunch of jokers or something??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambo Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 After seeing how these new modern fire stations look & if this is wot type of plans we can expect to see on show tomorrow?(nothing wrong with the designs themselves) then I'm even more convinced now (not that I ever wasn't) that the old boys home is not the location for Herefords purposed new fire station given that it is in a conservation area,it will look total out of place especially with all the other buildings running down that side of bath street? also I do not believe the look of it will enhance the area any!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dippyhippy Posted May 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I spoke on with a good contact at Free Radio and they are keen to speak with Dippy and possibly run a feature. I have pm'd Dippy all the details. Good luck! Thanks Colin, your help and support mean a lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambo Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I thought I'd just throw this in from bbc 2009 Fire HQ to be revamped not moved Plans to move Shropshire's fire service headquarters have been dropped in favour of refurbishing the existing base. The total cost of redeveloping the headquarters in St Michael's Street, Shrewsbury, is expected to cost £4m - £6m less than a move would have been. The fire service said it had already raised £2.5m for the work through grants and efficiency savings. Work on the refurbishment is expected to start later this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambo Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Just to let folks know I have been informed that due to ill health, regrettably & apologetically cllr Mark Hubbard will be unable to attend @ the fire station tomorrow for the showing of the designs for the purposed new station. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I spoke on with a good contact at Free Radio and they are keen to speak with Dippy and possibly run a feature. I have pm'd Dippy all the details. Good luck! Not so sure going on Free Radio would achieve very much ... What's their listener base? Andrew Easton on the local BBC radio show is the most obvious choice to have any sort of debate about this ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dippyhippy Posted May 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Evening Roger! At this late stage, all publicity is good publicity! Thanks Cambo for posting this info......Mark, hope you are soon feeling better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambo Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 Well I've been along to have a look @ the drawings & we are going to have a new fire station that looks like a leisure centre with some big doors!!! Very unattractive looking to me not iconic @ all!!! I'd like to ask cllr Lloyd-Hayes her thoughts on the drawings will it look iconic enough for you & something to be proud of?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twowheelsgood Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 We knew it would be bad, but never as bad as this! It’s a shocker!! Of course the rather fine Scots pine goes as well - council trademark - before you do anything fell some trees. Who can forget or forgive the felling of the centuries old boundary oak at the new cattle market? Or the limes … both completely avoidable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dippyhippy Posted May 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 The councils answer to everything seems to be "Rip it up, chop it down. New is better." Never mind the history. Never mind the character. Never mind the heritage. Has anybody seen today's Journal? The old primary school at Staunton on Wye, has been given a second chance. It will be converted into much needed assisted living apartments for the elderly. Constructed in 1860, the building is in such a state of disrepair, that it is said it could not withstand another winter. It stands in what in 1994, was designated a conservation area. It was listed in 1997. Virtually ALL of the main building will be retained and restored. What a great pity, a development opportunity such as this, has not been thought of for The Boys Home.....in a far more visible, and central location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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