BROCKINGTON

[Denise Lloyd]

Am I correct in thinking that Brockington used to be the HQ for Tate & Lyle or British Sugar Corporation or something to do with sugar production?  At one time not so long ago a lot of sugar beet was grown in this county. Having lived in Hafod Road once upon a time I remember walking past this building and looking at it in awe.

 

I think it is a magnificent building and hope beyond hope that it is listed.  

[Denise Lloyd]

Mind you I would prefer that the Council did something with these "surplus/redundant" buildings rather than sell them off to pay their bills.  They are always seeking innovative forward thinking overpaid staff you would think one of the bright sparks would say hang on a moment we could do this or that with the building and so on.  But no I think it just goes to show that the majority of these forward thinkers are just brown nosing yes people who are afraid to go against the flow because dam it all they are onto too gooder a thing at the moment. 

[Aylestone Voice]

It was the home for West Mercia Police before it went to South Herefordshire District Council

As to its future I believe there is a covenant which would prevent any development in the grounds and also which restricts the price at which it can be sold

[twowheelsgood]

All the more reason to retain it then, as Denise says, and put it to good use. Move IT there, for instance, from rented offices on the Thorn site at Rotherwas - save on rent and reduce travelling for staff. Too simple?

[Aylestone Voice]

Probably the case that Thorn is cheaper to run and cannot be sold whilst Brockington can

Also moving all the IT servers etc. and reconnecting it all would cost quite a bit I guess

I see no reason why it could not be converted to apartments as it is unlikely that there is an office business locally who would need a building of that size.

I guess we will have to trust them to make the right decision

[megilleland]

It was the home for West Mercia Police before it went to South Herefordshire District Council

As to its future I believe there is a covenant which would prevent any development in the grounds and also which restricts the price at which it can be sold

 

Nothing to stop the council giving it away or as in the case of Guy Taylor, Bodenham Manor being sold after auction for an undisclosed amount and possibly resold on.

[Aylestone Voice]

I should have known you would add your "hero" to this thread

[Glenda Powell]

brockington is in fact two separate properties join together by a glass walkway. Within a month Brockington will go onto the open market, expressions of interest are being handled by the Bristol offices of Connells Estate Agents.

[Cambo]

Hello glenda do you know why it's going on the market instead of the new uni having it as I thought that the council had originally offered it to them?

[megilleland]

I should have known you would add your "hero" to this thread

 

I always wish the underdog well. At least he has got some balls.

[Denise Lloyd]

This is now on the market see page 91 of this weeks HT.  Being sold as prime residential opportunity based on part conversion and part new build to create 15 high quality dwellings.

[megilleland]

It's a bit like selling the deck chairs on the Titanic as it goes down.

[gdj]

Joined up thinking.

 

The county spends a fortune for youngsters and young adults with disabilities and learning difficulties to go to out of county residential places.

 

Barrs Court special school is in a very confined site on a busy road with very little greenery.

 

The council has a large attractive building in the kind of pleasant environment that these people could benefit from

 

The council insists that it prioritises the vulnerable.

 

The council would like to borrow money to buy 3 Elms trading estate, so it is a case of priorities.

 

As an example, I have seen details of a place (somewhere on the Somerset coast I think)  that is a hotel that accommodates paying guests, but most of the staff are adults with learning difficulties who are, at the same time, receiving training in catering, hospitality, administration etc.  It costs money for them to be there but it is the kind of facility that gives dignity to all concerned.  If one was near me, I would happily go there for meals.  The council would also have `in house' accommodation for guests etc.

[Cambo]

Joined up thinking.

 

The county spends a fortune for youngsters and young adults with disabilities and learning difficulties to go to out of county residential places.

 

Barrs Court special school is in a very confined site on a busy road with very little greenery.

 

The council has a large attractive building in the kind of pleasant environment that these people could benefit from

 

The council insists that it prioritises the vulnerable.

 

The council would like to borrow money to buy 3 Elms trading estate, so it is a case of priorities.

 

As an example, I have seen details of a place (somewhere on the Somerset coast I think) that is a hotel that accommodates paying guests, but most of the staff are adults with learning difficulties who are, at the same time, receiving training in catering, hospitality, administration etc. It costs money for them to be there but it is the kind of facility that gives dignity to all concerned. If one was near me, I would happily go there for meals. The council would also have `in house' accommodation for guests etc.

That's a really good idea GDJ it's a shame the council don't like listening to brilliant ideas from people who are not in there sphere they only see the £££'s & what they can get out of it for there own self indulgence!!!

[twowheelsgood]

Joined up thinking.

 

The county spends a fortune for youngsters and young adults with disabilities and learning difficulties to go to out of county residential places.

 

Barrs Court special school is in a very confined site on a busy road with very little greenery.

 

The council has a large attractive building in the kind of pleasant environment that these people could benefit from

 

The council insists that it prioritises the vulnerable.

 

The council would like to borrow money to buy 3 Elms trading estate, so it is a case of priorities.

 

As an example, I have seen details of a place (somewhere on the Somerset coast I think)  that is a hotel that accommodates paying guests, but most of the staff are adults with learning difficulties who are, at the same time, receiving training in catering, hospitality, administration etc.  It costs money for them to be there but it is the kind of facility that gives dignity to all concerned.  If one was near me, I would happily go there for meals.  The council would also have `in house' accommodation for guests etc.

 

Excellent idea! Sell Barrs Court site for housing and reduce the traffic issues there as well. How much do we pay senior officers - the 'going rate for the best' - so why haven't they come up with this?

[Glenda Powell]

Cambo. It was always going to be put on the open market. the sole agent is Luke Brittain-for Connells in Bristol. Brockington is not listed but there are covenants on the building. The development brief is for part conversion to the house with 15 high quality dwellings in the grounds. Personally I think the selling price of £1.5m is to low. See page 90 of this weeks H.T. for details.

[Cambo]

Thanks Glenda yea I guess your right shame thou as gdj' s idea is a good one it's a pity they don't keep the building separate for that & divided the land up into parcels then sold those as individual building plots!

[Glenda Powell]

Considering the area and it is also a conservation area I can see these properties going for £1.5m each

[megilleland]

Sales Advertisement Hereford Times Thursday 13th November.

 

 

 

[megilleland]

Covenants attached.

 

C: Charges Register

This register contains any charges and other matters that affect the land.

 

1 A Conveyance of the land tinted pink on the filed plan and other land

dated 22 October 1909 made between (1) Stephen Robinson (Vendor) and

(2) William James Bowers (Purchaser) contains covenants details of

which are set out in the schedule of restrictive covenants hereto.

Schedule of restrictive covenants

 

1 The following are details of the covenants contained in the Conveyance

dated 22 October 1909 referred to in the Charges Register:-

The Purchaser for himself and his assigns (to the intent that the

covenant thereinafter contained should bind not only the Purchaser

himself but so far as may be all persons deriving tittle under him but

not so as to render the purchaser personally laible in damages for any

breach of such covenant after he had ceased to have any interest in the

hereditaments thereby assured) doth thereby covenant with the Vendor

his heirs and assigns that the Purchaser his heirs and assigns would at

all times thereafter observe and comply with the restrictions and

 

stipulations in reference to the hereditaments thereby assured which

were contained in the said first Schedule thereto

 

THE FIRST SCHEDULE

1. THE purchaser should erect and forever thereafter maintain a good and

sufficient boundary fence to separate the pieces of land thereby

assured (thereinafter referred ot as 'the said land') from the

adjoining land of the Vendor such fence to follow the course of the

dotted lines shown on the said map or plan and thereon denoted by the

letters X, Y, Z and to extend from the point denoted by the letter X on

the said map or plan to the point denoted by the letter Z thereon

 

2. NOR more than eight dwellinghouses with the usual necessary

outbuildings stabling coachhouses and offices for the slame

respectively should be erected on the said land and the cost of each

dwellinghouse so erected (including the cost of the outbuildings

stabling coachhouses and offices belonging thereto) should not be less

than £600

 

3. EACH dwellinghouse erected on the said land and every part thereof

should be on the eastern side of an imaginary line running paralled

with Hafod Road aforesaid and at a distance of 25 feet therefrom (the

jposition of such imaginary line being shown on the said map or plan by

dotted lines thereon denoted by the words 'building line') and no

building projection or structure should (except with the written

consent of the Vendor his heirs or assigns or his or their agent) be

erected made or placed on any part of the said land which lies between

the said imaginary line and Hafod Road but this proviso shall not

prevent the purchaser from erecting and maintaining a wall or fence not

exceeding 5ft 6 ins in height on the saidl and ot separate it form

Hafod Road or gate posts or gate piers and a gate or gates not

exceeding 19 feet in height

 

 

4. NO building or other erection should be built or made upon the said

land except in accordance with plans and elevations previously approved

by the Vendor his heirs or assigns or his or their agent but such

approval should not be vexaciously or unreasonably withheld and in

particular should not be withheld by reason of the architecture or

design of any such building or other erection being of a different

character from that of the dwelling houses already erected in Hafod Road

or thereabouts

 

5. THE purchaser should not (except with the written consent of the

Vendor his heirs or assigns or his or their agent) permit or suffer any

dwellinghosue which may be erected on the said land to be used at any

time thereafter as a public house or as premises licensed for the sale

of intoxicating liquors or refreshments nor should the purchaser

(except with the like consent) carry on or permit or suffer to be

carried on upon the said land or in any building erected thereon any

trade business or manufacture and should use the dwellinghouses erected

on the said land as private dwellinghouses only and should use such

parts of the said land as should not be built upon as gardens or

pleasure grounds or ornamental paddocks and not for any other purpose."

 

 

15 dwellings in the ad above. Does that include the main house?

 

 

 

 

 

[twowheelsgood]

Yes, it says based on part conversion and part new build to create 15 dwellings. But the covenant says 8 dwellings ...

[megilleland]

Any news on who has got their hands on Brockington? Bids closed 19th December 2014.

[Glenda Powell]

I asked the leader of the council who had bought Brockington he said he didn't know.

[Denise Lloyd]

He didn't know but would find out would have been a reply more in keeping of a leader

[twowheelsgood]

Council seem to be keeping progress on this sale very quiet - tired old 'commercial confidentiality' excuse again?

[Ubique]

Council seem to be keeping progress on this sale very quiet - tired old 'commercial confidentiality' excuse again?

Personally I think that the Councils "Defence" is round objects - if I sell my house all interested parties are aware of the last offer so there is NO commercial confidential . It, to my mind proves that it's just getting worse AND the Cllrs are watching it get worse , they are only interested in their own " Patch " they are not, to my mind fighting for the whole City .

 

If I am wrong , then I am wrong but that is my opinion and ,I should add its the opinion of a good number of educated friends that I circulate with .

[twowheelsgood]

I came past today and noted that Connells now have a standard 'for sale' sign up - seems rather odd!

[greenknight]

This has been up a while TWG certainly most of February.

[greenknight]

Well the sign says sold!

[Cambo]

Well the sign says sold!

Then that's has only gone up recently GK maybe in the last day or two because I go up & done that road on a regularly basis.