Denise Lloyd Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Am I correct in thinking that Brockington used to be the HQ for Tate & Lyle or British Sugar Corporation or something to do with sugar production? At one time not so long ago a lot of sugar beet was grown in this county. Having lived in Hafod Road once upon a time I remember walking past this building and looking at it in awe. I think it is a magnificent building and hope beyond hope that it is listed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denise Lloyd Posted August 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Mind you I would prefer that the Council did something with these "surplus/redundant" buildings rather than sell them off to pay their bills. They are always seeking innovative forward thinking overpaid staff you would think one of the bright sparks would say hang on a moment we could do this or that with the building and so on. But no I think it just goes to show that the majority of these forward thinkers are just brown nosing yes people who are afraid to go against the flow because dam it all they are onto too gooder a thing at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aylestone Voice Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 It was the home for West Mercia Police before it went to South Herefordshire District Council As to its future I believe there is a covenant which would prevent any development in the grounds and also which restricts the price at which it can be sold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twowheelsgood Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 All the more reason to retain it then, as Denise says, and put it to good use. Move IT there, for instance, from rented offices on the Thorn site at Rotherwas - save on rent and reduce travelling for staff. Too simple? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aylestone Voice Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Probably the case that Thorn is cheaper to run and cannot be sold whilst Brockington can Also moving all the IT servers etc. and reconnecting it all would cost quite a bit I guess I see no reason why it could not be converted to apartments as it is unlikely that there is an office business locally who would need a building of that size. I guess we will have to trust them to make the right decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megilleland Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 It was the home for West Mercia Police before it went to South Herefordshire District Council As to its future I believe there is a covenant which would prevent any development in the grounds and also which restricts the price at which it can be sold Nothing to stop the council giving it away or as in the case of Guy Taylor, Bodenham Manor being sold after auction for an undisclosed amount and possibly resold on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aylestone Voice Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 I should have known you would add your "hero" to this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenda Powell Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 brockington is in fact two separate properties join together by a glass walkway. Within a month Brockington will go onto the open market, expressions of interest are being handled by the Bristol offices of Connells Estate Agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambo Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Hello glenda do you know why it's going on the market instead of the new uni having it as I thought that the council had originally offered it to them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megilleland Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 I should have known you would add your "hero" to this thread I always wish the underdog well. At least he has got some balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denise Lloyd Posted November 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 This is now on the market see page 91 of this weeks HT. Being sold as prime residential opportunity based on part conversion and part new build to create 15 high quality dwellings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megilleland Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 It's a bit like selling the deck chairs on the Titanic as it goes down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdj Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Joined up thinking. The county spends a fortune for youngsters and young adults with disabilities and learning difficulties to go to out of county residential places. Barrs Court special school is in a very confined site on a busy road with very little greenery. The council has a large attractive building in the kind of pleasant environment that these people could benefit from The council insists that it prioritises the vulnerable. The council would like to borrow money to buy 3 Elms trading estate, so it is a case of priorities. As an example, I have seen details of a place (somewhere on the Somerset coast I think) that is a hotel that accommodates paying guests, but most of the staff are adults with learning difficulties who are, at the same time, receiving training in catering, hospitality, administration etc. It costs money for them to be there but it is the kind of facility that gives dignity to all concerned. If one was near me, I would happily go there for meals. The council would also have `in house' accommodation for guests etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambo Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Joined up thinking. The county spends a fortune for youngsters and young adults with disabilities and learning difficulties to go to out of county residential places. Barrs Court special school is in a very confined site on a busy road with very little greenery. The council has a large attractive building in the kind of pleasant environment that these people could benefit from The council insists that it prioritises the vulnerable. The council would like to borrow money to buy 3 Elms trading estate, so it is a case of priorities. As an example, I have seen details of a place (somewhere on the Somerset coast I think) that is a hotel that accommodates paying guests, but most of the staff are adults with learning difficulties who are, at the same time, receiving training in catering, hospitality, administration etc. It costs money for them to be there but it is the kind of facility that gives dignity to all concerned. If one was near me, I would happily go there for meals. The council would also have `in house' accommodation for guests etc. That's a really good idea GDJ it's a shame the council don't like listening to brilliant ideas from people who are not in there sphere they only see the £££'s & what they can get out of it for there own self indulgence!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twowheelsgood Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Joined up thinking. The county spends a fortune for youngsters and young adults with disabilities and learning difficulties to go to out of county residential places. Barrs Court special school is in a very confined site on a busy road with very little greenery. The council has a large attractive building in the kind of pleasant environment that these people could benefit from The council insists that it prioritises the vulnerable. The council would like to borrow money to buy 3 Elms trading estate, so it is a case of priorities. As an example, I have seen details of a place (somewhere on the Somerset coast I think) that is a hotel that accommodates paying guests, but most of the staff are adults with learning difficulties who are, at the same time, receiving training in catering, hospitality, administration etc. It costs money for them to be there but it is the kind of facility that gives dignity to all concerned. If one was near me, I would happily go there for meals. The council would also have `in house' accommodation for guests etc. Excellent idea! Sell Barrs Court site for housing and reduce the traffic issues there as well. How much do we pay senior officers - the 'going rate for the best' - so why haven't they come up with this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenda Powell Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Cambo. It was always going to be put on the open market. the sole agent is Luke Brittain-for Connells in Bristol. Brockington is not listed but there are covenants on the building. The development brief is for part conversion to the house with 15 high quality dwellings in the grounds. Personally I think the selling price of £1.5m is to low. See page 90 of this weeks H.T. for details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambo Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Thanks Glenda yea I guess your right shame thou as gdj' s idea is a good one it's a pity they don't keep the building separate for that & divided the land up into parcels then sold those as individual building plots! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenda Powell Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Considering the area and it is also a conservation area I can see these properties going for £1.5m each Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megilleland Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Sales Advertisement Hereford Times Thursday 13th November. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megilleland Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Covenants attached. C: Charges Register This register contains any charges and other matters that affect the land. 1 A Conveyance of the land tinted pink on the filed plan and other land dated 22 October 1909 made between (1) Stephen Robinson (Vendor) and (2) William James Bowers (Purchaser) contains covenants details of which are set out in the schedule of restrictive covenants hereto. Schedule of restrictive covenants 1 The following are details of the covenants contained in the Conveyance dated 22 October 1909 referred to in the Charges Register:- The Purchaser for himself and his assigns (to the intent that the covenant thereinafter contained should bind not only the Purchaser himself but so far as may be all persons deriving tittle under him but not so as to render the purchaser personally laible in damages for any breach of such covenant after he had ceased to have any interest in the hereditaments thereby assured) doth thereby covenant with the Vendor his heirs and assigns that the Purchaser his heirs and assigns would at all times thereafter observe and comply with the restrictions and stipulations in reference to the hereditaments thereby assured which were contained in the said first Schedule thereto THE FIRST SCHEDULE 1. THE purchaser should erect and forever thereafter maintain a good and sufficient boundary fence to separate the pieces of land thereby assured (thereinafter referred ot as 'the said land') from the adjoining land of the Vendor such fence to follow the course of the dotted lines shown on the said map or plan and thereon denoted by the letters X, Y, Z and to extend from the point denoted by the letter X on the said map or plan to the point denoted by the letter Z thereon 2. NOR more than eight dwellinghouses with the usual necessary outbuildings stabling coachhouses and offices for the slame respectively should be erected on the said land and the cost of each dwellinghouse so erected (including the cost of the outbuildings stabling coachhouses and offices belonging thereto) should not be less than £600 3. EACH dwellinghouse erected on the said land and every part thereof should be on the eastern side of an imaginary line running paralled with Hafod Road aforesaid and at a distance of 25 feet therefrom (the jposition of such imaginary line being shown on the said map or plan by dotted lines thereon denoted by the words 'building line') and no building projection or structure should (except with the written consent of the Vendor his heirs or assigns or his or their agent) be erected made or placed on any part of the said land which lies between the said imaginary line and Hafod Road but this proviso shall not prevent the purchaser from erecting and maintaining a wall or fence not exceeding 5ft 6 ins in height on the saidl and ot separate it form Hafod Road or gate posts or gate piers and a gate or gates not exceeding 19 feet in height 4. NO building or other erection should be built or made upon the said land except in accordance with plans and elevations previously approved by the Vendor his heirs or assigns or his or their agent but such approval should not be vexaciously or unreasonably withheld and in particular should not be withheld by reason of the architecture or design of any such building or other erection being of a different character from that of the dwelling houses already erected in Hafod Road or thereabouts 5. THE purchaser should not (except with the written consent of the Vendor his heirs or assigns or his or their agent) permit or suffer any dwellinghosue which may be erected on the said land to be used at any time thereafter as a public house or as premises licensed for the sale of intoxicating liquors or refreshments nor should the purchaser (except with the like consent) carry on or permit or suffer to be carried on upon the said land or in any building erected thereon any trade business or manufacture and should use the dwellinghouses erected on the said land as private dwellinghouses only and should use such parts of the said land as should not be built upon as gardens or pleasure grounds or ornamental paddocks and not for any other purpose." 15 dwellings in the ad above. Does that include the main house? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twowheelsgood Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Yes, it says based on part conversion and part new build to create 15 dwellings. But the covenant says 8 dwellings ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megilleland Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Any news on who has got their hands on Brockington? Bids closed 19th December 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenda Powell Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 I asked the leader of the council who had bought Brockington he said he didn't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denise Lloyd Posted January 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 He didn't know but would find out would have been a reply more in keeping of a leader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twowheelsgood Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Council seem to be keeping progress on this sale very quiet - tired old 'commercial confidentiality' excuse again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ubique Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Council seem to be keeping progress on this sale very quiet - tired old 'commercial confidentiality' excuse again? Personally I think that the Councils "Defence" is round objects - if I sell my house all interested parties are aware of the last offer so there is NO commercial confidential . It, to my mind proves that it's just getting worse AND the Cllrs are watching it get worse , they are only interested in their own " Patch " they are not, to my mind fighting for the whole City . If I am wrong , then I am wrong but that is my opinion and ,I should add its the opinion of a good number of educated friends that I circulate with . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twowheelsgood Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 I came past today and noted that Connells now have a standard 'for sale' sign up - seems rather odd! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenknight Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 This has been up a while TWG certainly most of February. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenknight Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Well the sign says sold! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambo Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Well the sign says sold! Then that's has only gone up recently GK maybe in the last day or two because I go up & done that road on a regularly basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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