Alex Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 At the Regulatory meeting last Thursday, as part of the agenda for discussion was the CIZ area and we were asked if we were happy that this area had improved as of late. As part of that conversation I asked if we could relax the condition for hot food to be sold after 1.30am. I was told by the chairman that there was a Chinese takeaway in Commercial Street now allowed to stay open till 2.30am, to which I replied then other hot food establishments should be able to do the same, the reply was ' tell them to apply for a licence' and it will be considered. So come on guys I have opened the door to discussion its up to you now to apply!! Your input is appreciated councillor but I think Colin and others with this campaign had already opened the door some time ago, see the first post in this topic, we are just waiting for other restaurants and hot food establishments to follow suit and apply to extend their opening hours too.
Roger Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 I was told by the chairman that there was a Chinese takeaway in Commercial Street now allowed to stay open till 2.30am What outlet is that please?
Glenda Powell Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 Roger, I think its called wok rice and its in Commercial road not commercial street as I said before.
Glenda Powell Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 Alex, I am not trying to take the credit I have been speaking to and supporting Colin on this for some time. I brought the subject up before at the Regulatory meetings but while there was disturbance in and around the CIZ area the police was not in agreement to the condition being removed. Now it has been agreed that things have got better I again as I said in my previous post (31) brought the subject up again.
Roger Posted February 24, 2015 Report Posted February 24, 2015 Roger, I think its called wok rice and its in Commercial road not commercial street as I said before. The most recent Licensing Application for Wok & Rice here (from June 2014) seems to indicate a 01.00 finish apart from Fri/Sat where it's 01.30. I generally keep an eye on the Council Licensing page and I've not noticed a 02.30 application for that premises. I'd love to be proved wrong but that's all I can see. Their website Wok & Rice indicates their actual opening hours are 12 - 23 apart from Fri/Sat when it's 12 - 01
Alex Posted February 24, 2015 Report Posted February 24, 2015 The most recent Licensing Application for Wok & Rice here (from June 2014) seems to indicate a 01.00 finish apart from Fri/Sat where it's 01.30. I generally keep an eye on the Council Licensing page and I've not noticed a 02.30 application for that premises. I'd love to be proved wrong but that's all I can see. Their website Wok & Rice indicates their actual opening hours are 12 - 23 apart from Fri/Sat when it's 12 - 01 So have they got extended hours then?
Roger Posted February 24, 2015 Report Posted February 24, 2015 So have they got extended hours then? I suppose the best indication would be their opening hours sign on the front door .... Not been in town to check for a few weeks ....
Paul Neades Posted March 1, 2015 Report Posted March 1, 2015 They do have extended hours and normally shut at 1
Colin James Posted March 1, 2015 Author Report Posted March 1, 2015 They do have extended hours and normally shut at 1 Extended hours? I thought the limit under the old rules was close at 0130, so how is closing at 0100 extended hours mate? So not Wok & Rice then that CVP is referring too...
Paul Neades Posted March 1, 2015 Report Posted March 1, 2015 Standard hours are 23:00 both Munchies and Wok & Rice have had to apply for extended hours till 01.30. It's the same for a pub where any hours outside standard trading hours 23:00 have to apply for extended hours to go to later. This is where there was an issue within the Impact Zone with regards to extending hours but this is now relaxing with business applying on their own merits where they feel they can prove that there will be no cumulative impact.
Colin James Posted March 1, 2015 Author Report Posted March 1, 2015 Standard hours are 23:00 both Munchies and Wok & Rice have had to apply for extended hours till 01.30. It's the same for a pub where any hours outside standard trading hours 23:00 have to apply for extended hours to go to later. This is where there was an issue within the Impact Zone with regards to extending hours but this is now relaxing with business applying on their own merits where they feel they can prove that there will be no cumulative impact. I'm assuming that you can apply to stay open beyond the 0130 threshold, did not realise that the standard times were only until 2300. Thanks for the info Paul, hope that you are well my friend.
Roger Posted April 1, 2015 Report Posted April 1, 2015 I see that there is an application in for 'The Buttery' sandwich shop in Maylord Street Hereford to have a late night refreshment licence (no alcohol) between 23.30 and 02.30 on a Thur/Fri/Sat. To include indoor and outdoor provision of what I imagine would be hot food/coffee type stuff. The applicant says approval is needed to 'guarantee it's survival'. Application The application looks a bit 'woolly' to me. To have a chance of getting a 02.30 stand alone food type licence I think you need to be all over covering the licensing objectives which the applicant has covered by saying 'security' will be provided. No mention of CCTV/litter provision etc.
Bilbobobby Posted April 2, 2015 Report Posted April 2, 2015 Watch this space....at least 2 venues looking to sell food later....
Colin James Posted April 14, 2015 Author Report Posted April 14, 2015 I have just been sent this - Cumulative Impact Zone Legal Q&A. This is a good article
Roger Posted April 14, 2015 Report Posted April 14, 2015 I have just been sent this - Cumulative Impact Zone Legal Q&A. This is a good article I'm still unsure if the Hereford CIZ has been enlarged as has been proposed. Bilbobobby said last December that it was due to go before the Licensing Committee for a decision ... Proposed 'enlarged' CIZ
Roger Posted August 17, 2015 Report Posted August 17, 2015 Golden Galleon on Commercial Road has applied for a 04.30 finish seven days a week. Application here
Colin James Posted August 17, 2015 Author Report Posted August 17, 2015 Thanks Roger, lets see what happens here then.
Mick Posted August 17, 2015 Report Posted August 17, 2015 I bet the police object, this will be interesting.
Roger Posted August 18, 2015 Report Posted August 18, 2015 Thanks Roger, lets see what happens here then. I don't know what else the applicant can say to promote the licensing objectives that are thrown in any applicants face. He is not serving alcohol, no 'children' will be out at the extended hours he want's to trade at and he has got cameras lined up and a litter pick outside the shop with sufficient bins'. The issues I might have are that if you need SIA guards at a chip shop (which he is proposing at relevant times) then you are anticipating trouble. Is he? Or is he just writing the right words to get the extended hours? I'd like to know the radius of his litter pick proposals. Is it outside his front door? The Baptist Church next door? Commercial Street? Barrs Court Road? As that is exactly where the chip trays end up! As we all know!
Paul Jones Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 I don't know what else the applicant can say to promote the licensing objectives that are thrown in any applicants face. He is not serving alcohol, no 'children' will be out at the extended hours he want's to trade at and he has got cameras lined up and a litter pick outside the shop with sufficient bins'. The issues I might have are that if you need SIA guards at a chip shop (which he is proposing at relevant times) then you are anticipating trouble. Is he? Or is he just writing the right words to get the extended hours? I'd like to know the radius of his litter pick proposals. Is it outside his front door? The Baptist Church next door? Commercial Street? Barrs Court Road? As that is exactly where the chip trays end up! As we all know! It looks like they have ticked all the right boxes. With regard to the litter pick then surely they can only be responsible for the area immediately surrounding the chippy, if someone walks home across bars court road and decides to just throw the litter in the street I fail to see how this chippy is to blame, that has to come down to the irresponsible person committing the crime and not the chippy, if thats the case then Tesco, Asda and Sainsbury's should pay to dredge the river in order to retrieve there discarded trolleys. Getting back to the topic I am looking forward to the outcome of this application, personally, I see no real cause for objection, they seem to have done their homework.
Paul Neades Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 A part of this application will be trading history will be considered, have they opened till 4.30am in the past and have there been any issues associated with the premises when they have traded later, also the residents will have an input as to wether they want a premises trading until 4.30am where they live. Lots of factors to be taken into account. I wish them the best of luck with the application.
M. Preece Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 A part of this application will be trading history will be considered, have they opened till 4.30am in the past and have there been any issues associated with the premises when they have traded later, also the residents will have an input as to wether they want a premises trading until 4.30am where they live. Lots of factors to be taken into account. I wish them the best of luck with the application. Always get me that one about residents, this is the city centre, they chose to live there, knowing that there are pubs, late night clubs and bars surrounding them. You probably pay more to for living in the city centre, if its peace and quiet they seek then they should of looked at living in a much quieter location. Good luck with this application this city needs to get into the 21st century.
Roger Posted August 20, 2015 Report Posted August 20, 2015 It looks like they have ticked all the right boxes. With regard to the litter pick then surely they can only be responsible for the area immediately surrounding the chippy, if someone walks home across bars court road and decides to just throw the litter in the street I fail to see how this chippy is to blame I agree. There's a Council bin virtually outside their front door. Obviously the Golden Galleon folk are not responsible if people choose not to use it. In my experience if people buy chips really late they meander off drunk and then dump what they don't want on some random pavement down the street - probably having passed another nearby bin in that general area.
Colin James Posted September 5, 2015 Author Report Posted September 5, 2015 I see that Dominos Pizza (Belmont Rd) applied to extend their hours of business until 0200 Sunday - Thursday and until 0400 Fridays and Saturdays. Direct Counter sales cease at Midnight so this extension is for deliveries only by the look of it and its been REFUSED this week. The operators are seeking an extension of opening hours to 0200 hours on Sundays to Thursdays and to 0400 hours on Fridays and Saturdays. Direct counter sales to visiting customers would cease at 2400 hours (midnight) daily and only delivery sales would take place after that time until the unit ceased trading for that day. The additional trading hours are being proposed in order to bring the planning condition into line with the consented Premises Licence for this unit. Application no: P151384/F Decision Notice 228449.pdf
H.Wilson Posted September 5, 2015 Report Posted September 5, 2015 A part of this application will be trading history will be considered, have they opened till 4.30am in the past and have there been any issues associated with the premises when they have traded later, also the residents will have an input as to wether they want a premises trading until 4.30am where they live. Lots of factors to be taken into account. I wish them the best of luck with the application. I agree with M Preece - People buy/live in flats etc in the "busiest street in the city centre" and then some will complain about businesses trading until 4am. I suspect this application for the Indian will not be granted until 4.30 but time will tell.
Bill Thomas Posted September 5, 2015 Report Posted September 5, 2015 I see that Dominos Pizza (Belmont Rd) applied to extend their hours of business until 0200 Sunday - Thursday and until 0400 Fridays and Saturdays. Direct Counter sales cease at Midnight so this extension is for deliveries only by the look of it and its been REFUSED this week. Application no: P151384/F Decision Notice 228449.pdf There is the first refusal then.
Colin James Posted September 5, 2015 Author Report Posted September 5, 2015 There is the first refusal then. I don't think Police had any issues, it looked more like residents complaining. One of their issues was staff standing on the wall holding up boards with offers on, but this is only now and again and always during the day, can't imagine them stood on a wall at 1am somehow.
Colin James Posted September 6, 2015 Author Report Posted September 6, 2015 With regard to the Glass Tandoori, I can't see them allowing them to open until 0430 at best, I reckon they will allow them to stay open until 0300, which would be a result, however, I cannot see what difference another 90 minutes would make. We should know the outcome sometime next week from my understanding, so we will see.
Paul Jones Posted September 6, 2015 Report Posted September 6, 2015 With regard to the Glass Tandoori, I can't see them allowing them to open until 0430 at best, I reckon they will allow them to stay open until 0300, which would be a result, however, I cannot see what difference another 90 minutes would make. We should know the outcome sometime next week from my understanding, so we will see. I would imagine even if they were granted a licence to trade until 4.30am they would not be open everyday until that time, so don't really understand what the issue would be. Friday and Saturday they should be able to stay open until they want but I don't think 4.00am is an unreasonable request at this stage.
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