K.Butt Posted April 16, 2016 Report Posted April 16, 2016 A Ledbury town councillor has been forced to apologise after she tried to ban Union Jack bunting being put up to celebrate the Queen's birthday - in case it upset FOREIGNERS. What the hell? Councillor Liz Harvey voted against having the patriotic bunting, saying visitors to the town would mistake the red-white-and-blue flags for the National Front. She made the bizarre comments during a town council meeting to discuss ways to mark the Queen's 90th birthday in the Herefordshire town of Ledbury. Cllr Harvey, who runs the It's Our County party, said: "If I could make one plea, please no red, white and blue bunting." Story here Quote
Paul Jones Posted April 16, 2016 Report Posted April 16, 2016 I read the story in the Daily Mail this morning. I voted for IOC in the last election, but if this is part of their policy then they will loose my vote next time around. Some party clarification on this story wouldn't go a miss? Quote
Alex Posted April 16, 2016 Report Posted April 16, 2016 I am disgusted at this and so are the people who have left comments and rightly so Quote
Glenda Powell Posted April 16, 2016 Report Posted April 16, 2016 K Butt, Liz Harvey is the deputy leader of IOC, that said, when she is around their leader says nothing!. She is a very self opinionated woman, she is always right and everyone else is wrong in her eyes. stating that our national flag would be mistaken for the national front is discusting, and in my opinion a slight on our Queen. If that is how she feels she should go back to live where she came from or better still leave Britain altogether !!!. Quote
Bill Thomas Posted April 16, 2016 Report Posted April 16, 2016 This sort of rubbish really annoys the hell out of me. We and I include Cllr Harvey should be PROUD of our nation not trying to hide it in fear of upsetting others, why would it upset anyone? And if it does then they clearly shouldn't be here in the first place! Quote
Victor Wright Posted April 16, 2016 Report Posted April 16, 2016 She appears to be back tracking, thankfully http://www.herefordtimes.com/news/14429758.Councillor_sorry_after_Ledbury_bunting_confusion/?ref=mr&lp=15 Quote
Colin James Posted April 16, 2016 Report Posted April 16, 2016 It looks like she has been slightly misquoted or it has bee taken out of context. Hopefully one of our IOC members maybe able to through more light on it. Quote
John Harrington Posted April 16, 2016 Report Posted April 16, 2016 Evening all, The comments Liz made in the Ledbury Town meeting are not IOC policy.And she didn't for a moment claim they were.They have also been taken out of context. She did not try to 'ban bunting' etc etc, she expressed her own views on the best colours to go for. Liz has apologised for any offence caused. John Harrington (Chairman, It's Our County) Quote
Colin James Posted April 16, 2016 Report Posted April 16, 2016 Evening all, The comments Liz made in the Ledbury Town meeting are not IOC policy.And she didn't for a moment claim they were.They have also been taken out of context. She did not try to 'ban bunting' etc etc, she expressed her own views on the best colours to go for. Liz has apologised for any offence caused. John Harrington (Chairman, It's Our County) Thank you for the clarification John, I thought something may of been a miss here. Quote
Adrian symonds Posted April 16, 2016 Report Posted April 16, 2016 i do not know why we really need a load of these flags all over the place anyway, they look awful and tacky, I also do not why we are celebrating someone's birthday that have had, to be honest a good lifestyle paid for by the tax payers. Quote
Slim Posted April 16, 2016 Report Posted April 16, 2016 Adrian, a lot of people who do nothing for this country, eg:- non working folk, have had had a good lifestyle paid for by the taxpayers. Don't mock something that is respected by a lot of people in this country, regarded enviously by a lot of countries and is vitally important to a lot of incoming trade. Quote
Denise Lloyd Posted April 16, 2016 Report Posted April 16, 2016 And she's a good old girl as well Quote
Colin James Posted April 16, 2016 Report Posted April 16, 2016 Adrian, a lot of people who do nothing for this country, eg:- non working folk, have had had a good lifestyle paid for by the taxpayers. Don't mock something that is respected by a lot of people in this country, regarded enviously by a lot of countries and is vitally important to a lot of incoming trade. I couldn't agree more. Quote
Adrian Pitt Posted April 16, 2016 Report Posted April 16, 2016 i do not know why we really need a load of these flags all over the place anyway, they look awful and tacky, I also do not why we are celebrating someone's birthday that have had, to be honest a good lifestyle paid for by the tax payers. And a MASSIVE earner for the UK, ten fold compared to what they are paid. Quote
K.Butt Posted April 16, 2016 Author Report Posted April 16, 2016 And a MASSIVE earner for the UK, ten fold compared to what they are paid. You beat me too it. Quote
dippyhippy Posted April 16, 2016 Report Posted April 16, 2016 It seems ridiculous to me, that Liz Harvey comment has been misquoted, indeed even manipulated, to put her in a bad light. This is a woman who works extremely hard for the folks she represents. She appears to have a genuine concern about just how long the bunting will be up for. I quite agree. Use the red, white and blue for a specific occasion....I have no problem there( and neither does Liz). But if it's going to be draped around the town indefinitely, then perhaps something a little more considered would be advised. I'm no royalist. But I'm more than happy to see union flag bunting up whenever the occasion arises. I'm not convinced that the whole of Ledbury needs to be covered in it for the whole tourist season. When I think about the amount of good this councillor does, it seems to me grossly unfair that perhaps an off the cuff remark has caused such a furore. Surely there are more pressing issues that need to be discussed? Just my opinion. Quote
ragwert Posted April 16, 2016 Report Posted April 16, 2016 It looks like she has been slightly misquoted or it has bee taken out of context. Hopefully one of our IOC members maybe able to through more light on it. Although she did not say or try to 'ban the flag' she did say it would upset foreigners Quote
the casual Posted April 16, 2016 Report Posted April 16, 2016 I love the way people blame the papers when they have been caught with their pants down. And I agree with Adrian Symonds. Pointless event to be celebrated. Quote
K.Butt Posted April 16, 2016 Author Report Posted April 16, 2016 I love the way people blame the papers when they have been caught with their pants down. And I agree with Adrian Symonds. Pointless event to be celebrated. So the Queens 90th birthday celebrations are pointless? Quote
atm63 Posted April 17, 2016 Report Posted April 17, 2016 Upset Foreigners , Mmmmmmmm well as they say " fit in or fk off" . Quote
Jango1969 Posted April 17, 2016 Report Posted April 17, 2016 Been to a number of different countries that whilst there have been flying their national flag. Never being the foreigner have I, felt any upset or distress. Don't think I, have seen it with anyone else either. Quote
Paul Jones Posted April 17, 2016 Report Posted April 17, 2016 Upset Foreigners , Mmmmmmmm well as they say " fit in or fk off" . Agree with that Quote
lpusseycat Posted April 17, 2016 Report Posted April 17, 2016 I agree with paul jones the union jack has been around for so long it is part of our heritage ,As far as Ciir Harvey is concerned it is an opinion to keep to herself if she wants to be in the public limelight then expect critics it is all part of it when you serve in public office there is no excuses she should not have said it make no mistake i am not a royalist.Those that want it should pay for it in my opinion. Quote
Cambo Posted April 17, 2016 Report Posted April 17, 2016 Maybe they'd be happier if they put up bunting with the EU flag on it instead? Quote
Cloudberry Posted April 17, 2016 Report Posted April 17, 2016 It seems ridiculous to me, that Liz Harvey comment has been misquoted, indeed even manipulated, to put her in a bad light. This is a woman who works extremely hard for the folks she represents. She appears to have a genuine concern about just how long the bunting will be up for. I quite agree. Use the red, white and blue for a specific occasion....I have no problem there( and neither does Liz). But if it's going to be draped around the town indefinitely, then perhaps something a little more considered would be advised. I'm no royalist. But I'm more than happy to see union flag bunting up whenever the occasion arises. I'm not convinced that the whole of Ledbury needs to be covered in it for the whole tourist season. When I think about the amount of good this councillor does, it seems to me grossly unfair that perhaps an off the cuff remark has caused such a furore. Surely there are more pressing issues that need to be discussed? Just my opinion. Dippy, I agree this seems to be a mountain made out of a molehill. Political correctness these days means you are always going to offend someone, but the more you try and please everyone the more some groups get irrationally "offended". No-one will dare to put up any bunting anywhere at all at this rate. And what a terrible shame that would be! Quote
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