ragwert Posted April 18, 2017 Report Posted April 18, 2017 The PM has announced her intention to call a General election on 8th Junesaying it is the only way to guarantee certainty & security for the Country during ourexit from EU Quote
greenknight Posted April 18, 2017 Report Posted April 18, 2017 Oh here we go again!...well let's see how many of those members with political ambition resurrect themselves back to this site ...God help us. Â Clever in one way but a huge gamble in so many others. Quote
ragwert Posted April 18, 2017 Author Report Posted April 18, 2017 Oh here we go again!...well let's see how many of those members with political ambition resurrect themselves back to this site ...God help us. Â Clever in one way but a huge gamble in so many others. Yep clever but I don't think its a gamble.Who's going to vote Labour? Parliament will still be full of Tories & the SNPÂ Quote
greenknight Posted April 18, 2017 Report Posted April 18, 2017 Well that's true however there might be a fly in the ointment. UKIP are a spent force and there are many disgruntled Tories so could this possibly help push up the numbers once more for Lib Dems especially the pro Europe ticket. A gamble by the conservatives might find themselves losing seats rather than strengthening their position... Quote
greenknight Posted April 18, 2017 Report Posted April 18, 2017 So we will see locally an IOC candidate or an Independent pitch ...so the question is who?...I have an idea who might thanksgiving it a go. Quote
Colin James Posted April 18, 2017 Report Posted April 18, 2017 For all you lefty tree huggers who were moaning about Teresa Bae not being democratically elected and having no mandate to deliver Brexit, she is now giving the country the opportunity to decide whether she will be democratically elected, so you have what you wanted, so why are some still moaning? Is it because deep down you know that there is no credible opposition? Quote
Frank Smith Posted April 18, 2017 Report Posted April 18, 2017 I just read this and completely agree: Â She is fed up of the constant Commons moaning and moves to block or delay Brexit behind the scenes. She's saying nows your time to do something about it, defeat her in the democratic GE or if you lose, shut up and let her get on with it. Would expect a clear Tory majority in June. Quote
Colin James Posted April 18, 2017 Report Posted April 18, 2017 They will all still moan, what next, it's not a fair election cause we weren't ready ? Top of the pile Quote
Denise Lloyd Posted April 18, 2017 Report Posted April 18, 2017 So we will see locally an IOC candidate or an Independent pitch ...so the question is who?...I have an idea who might thanksgiving it a go.  The one that seems most likely to give it a go is Jim Kenyon I can't see anybody else really up for it or up to it Quote
Cambo Posted April 18, 2017 Report Posted April 18, 2017 Will be interesting to see how this plays out given that people who voted either leave or remain came from different voting backgrounds so for example someone who is traditionally a labour voter but may have vote leave…will they vote labour? The same as if you may be a Tory voter who voted to remain will they still vote Tory? Quote
Cambo Posted April 18, 2017 Report Posted April 18, 2017 The one that seems most likely to give it a go is Jim Kenyon I can't see anybody else really up for it or up to it Personally I can't see JK winning if he was to stand he would more than likely do well in getting plenty of votes in the city but it's the vote outside of Hereford he might struggle with? Also what is the mandate he will pitch in order to get the vote? Quote
greenknight Posted April 18, 2017 Report Posted April 18, 2017 Personally I can't see JK winning if he was to stand he would more than likely do well in getting plenty of votes in the city but it's the vote outside of Hereford he might struggle with? Also what is the mandate he will pitch in order to get the vote? Well I would give Jim the nod but more as an Independent rather than IOC. Quote
megilleland Posted April 19, 2017 Report Posted April 19, 2017 Do Jesse and Bill know there is an election being called or are they still hibernating? Quote
twowheelsgood Posted April 19, 2017 Report Posted April 19, 2017 The one that seems most likely to give it a go is Jim Kenyon I can't see anybody else really up for it or up to it  Please, no, no, no! Quote
Alex Posted April 19, 2017 Report Posted April 19, 2017 Please, no, no, no!  Jim will be getting my vote, so who do you suggest then? Quote
greenknight Posted April 19, 2017 Report Posted April 19, 2017 Please, no, no, no! Â Well his appointment as Mayor did expose him a little to some of the cronies that we have in this county..but he has done an awful lot of good as councillor on my patch sometimes above and beyond his brief. Quote
Aylestone Voice Posted April 19, 2017 Report Posted April 19, 2017 The chance of an IOC candidate getting elected for South Herefordshire is less than zero and the same goes for Labour, UKIP and the flat earth society(Greens) The only possibility of upsetting the Jessie bandwagon would be for the Lib Dems but I guess they will have Lucy Hurds standing again. She has lost on countless occasions so a repeat seems most likely Anyway watching Jesse bumble his way through at the despatch box in the H o C is always good for a laugh. You could repeat this scenario for North Herefordshire but with different names - so expect Wiggin to continue to make a fool of himself in the H o C. Quote
Steve Major Posted April 20, 2017 Report Posted April 20, 2017 Conservative for me and Corbyn is their biggest asset, so lets hope he stays Labour leader for the next few years even though I think he is a vile man. Quote
twowheelsgood Posted April 20, 2017 Report Posted April 20, 2017 Labour will lose catastrophically at which point Corbyn will go. Hard to see how they will ever recover, or if indeed they deserve to. Quote
twowheelsgood Posted April 20, 2017 Report Posted April 20, 2017 Jim will be getting my vote, so who do you suggest then?  For the first time in 40+ years I am wondering what is the point of voting. I did have hopes for Jesse at one time but his commitment to the County appears to have waned in his second term. IOC are in terminal decline - unable to get their act together for the last election, which they knew was coming, they blew it big time, leaving us with the ongoing mess of Tory majority rule. The idea of them nominating a prospective candidate would fall squarely into the raving loony party section. Quote
greenknight Posted April 20, 2017 Report Posted April 20, 2017 For the first time in 40+ years I am wondering what is the point of voting. I did have hopes for Jesse at one time but his commitment to the County appears to have waned in his second term. IOC are in terminal decline - unable to get their act together for the last election, which they knew was coming, they blew it big time, leaving us with the ongoing mess of Tory majority rule. The idea of them nominating a prospective candidate would fall squarely into the raving loony party section. Sadly I agree TWG so I would be more inclined to vote for someone keen to support those issues that affect the county and not a political group. Mrs May wants a mandate to push through tough decisions and of course silence those that claim she is in charge by default. There is no viable alternative at this time and when in commerce and holding a monopoly then for those privileged few the good times role. A sad state of affairs for this great nation. Quote
megilleland Posted April 20, 2017 Report Posted April 20, 2017 Is it an election about Brexit or endorsing further conservative policies for the next term? This gives an insight into Jesse's thinking while an MP.  From the Public Whip website:This chart shows the percentage agreement between this MP and each of the policies in the database, according to their voting record.Agreement   Policy 50%    Abortion, Embryology and Euthanasia- Against100%    Academy Schools - for 33%    Action to prevent domestic violence 16%    Additional Rate of Income Tax - Increase 72%    Against On-Shore Wind Turbines 50%    Assisted Dying100%    Asylum System - More strict 99%    Balance the Budget Without Borrowing   8%    Bankers' Bonus Tax100%    Business and community control of schools: For 80%    Cap or Reduce Civil Service Redundancy Payments 67%    Closed Material Proceedure 76%    Coalition Programme for Government - For 75%    Cull Badgers 50%    Deployment of UK armed forces in Afghanistan 50%    Do more to help refugees including children 70%    Employee Shareholder Status100%    Encourage and incentivise saving100%    End support for some 16-18 yr olds in education   6%    Energy Prices - More Affordable 50%    English Votes on English Laws etc. 78%    Equal Number of Electors Per Constituency - for 48%    European Union - For 80%    Excess Bedroom Benefit Penalty for Social Tenants100%    Extend Right to Buy to Housing Associations 60%    Fixed Term Parliaments 11%    For the UK to Remain a Member of the EU   1%    Fully Elected House of Lords 16%    Further Devolution to Scotland 24%    Further devolution to Wales   0%    Gambling - Against permissiveness100%    GP Commissioning in the NHS 85%    Higher taxes on alcoholic drinks 60%    Higher taxes on banks 78%    Homosexuality - Equal rights 67%    HS2 - In Favour 33%    Human Rights and Equality 50%    In Favour of Mass Surveillance 20%    Incentivise Low Carbon Electricity Generation 50%    Incentivise membership of press regulator 89%    Increase Air Passenger Duty 90%    Increase the income tax - tax free allowance 88%    Increase VAT 17%    Inheritance Tax   0%    Iraq Investigation - Necessary   0%    Jobs Guarantee for Long Term Young Unemployed   0%    Limit NHS Foundation Trust Private Patient Income 88%    Localise Council Tax Support 64%    Lower taxes on petrol & diesel for motor vehicles 90%    Make High Earners Pay Market Rent for Council Home 50%    Make it easier to trigger a new election for an MP   0%    Mansion Tax 78%    Mass Retention of Communications Data 39%    Measures to reduce tax avoidance.100%    Merge Police and Fire under Police & Crime Cmmr 83%    Military Action against Daesh / ISIL 32%    Minimum Wage   0%    More funds for social care   7%    More Generous Benefits for Ill and Disabled 33%    More powers for local councils 50%    No detention without charge or trial   0%    No Polls Clash With MP Election System Referendum100%    Nuclear power - For100%    Pension auto-enrolment - For100%    Phase out of Tenancies for Life 92%    Police and Crime Commissioners   0%    Prevent abuse of zero hours contracts100%    Privatise Royal Mail100%    Promote Occupational Pensions 22%    Proportional Representation Voting System - For 34%    Public Ownership of Railways   0%    Rail Fares - Lower 86%    Reduce capital gains tax100%    Reduce central funding for local government 90%    Reduce Spending on Welfare Benefits 90%    Reduce the rate of Corporation Tax 83%    Reducing the number of MPs - for 81%    Referendum on Alternative Vote for MP Elections 69%    Referendum on the UK's membership of the EU - For 79%    Referendums for Directly Elected City Mayors 60%    Register of Lobbyists 63%    Regulation of Shale Gas Extraction   1%    Remove Hereditary Peers from the House of Lords100%    Replace Higher Education Grants with Loans 25%    Require Pub Companies to Offer Rent Only Leases 96%    Restrict 3rd party campaigners during elections 90%    Restrict Scope of Legal Aid 25%    Retain funds from council house sales locally100%    Retention of Business Rates by Local Government 12%    Right for EU Citizens in the UK to Stay 42%    Right to strike 81%    Same Sex Marriage - for 96%    Schools - Greater Autonomy100%    Sell England's Public Forests 63%    Smoking ban - In favour   9%    State control of bus services 28%    Stop climate change 33%    Stronger Military Covenant 41%    Tax Incentives for Companies Investing in Assets   0%    Teach children about drugs, sexuality and health 50%    Terrorism laws - For100%    Tougher on illegal immigration 95%    Trade Union Regulation100%    Trident replacement - In favour100%    Tuition fees - Set Upper Limit at £9,000 per Year100%    University Tuition Fees - For 70%    Use of UK Military Forces Overseas 20%    Voting age - Reduce to 16   0%    Welfare benefits ought rise in line with prices Quote
megilleland Posted April 20, 2017 Report Posted April 20, 2017 And here is Bill Wiggin's thinking:  From the Public Whip website:This chart shows the percentage agreement between this MP and each of the policies in the database, according to their voting record.  Agreement   Policy 22%    Abortion, Embryology and Euthanasia- Against100%    Academy Schools - for 50%    Action to prevent domestic violence   8%    Additional Rate of Income Tax - Increase100%    Against On-Shore Wind Turbines 50%    Assisted Dying 82%    Asylum System - More strict100%    Balance the Budget Without Borrowing   0%    Ban fox hunting 12%    Bankers' Bonus Tax 76%    Business and community control of schools: For100%    Cap or Reduce Civil Service Redundancy Payments100%    Civil aviation pollution - For limiting100%    Closed Material Proceedure 84%    Coalition Programme for Government - For   3%    Control Orders 50%    Crossrail - In favour 88%    Cull Badgers100%    Deployment of UK armed forces in Afghanistan 50%    Do more to help refugees inclding children100%    Employee Shareholder Status100%    Encourage and incentivise saving100%    End support for some 16-18 yr olds in education   6%    Energy Prices - More Affordable100%    English Votes on English Laws etc. 95%    Equal Number of Electors Per Constituency - for 31%    European Union - For 96%    Excess Bedroom Benefit Penalty for Social Tenants100%    Extend Right to Buy to Housing Associations 83%    Fixed Term Parliaments 17%    For the UK to Remain a Member of the EU 20%    Foundation hospitals - In favour   0%    Fox hunting - Ban 23%    Fully Elected House of Lords  6%    Further Devolution to Scotland   6%    Further devolution to Wales 47%    Gambling - Against permissiveness100%    GP Commissioning in the NHS 87%    Higher taxes on alcoholic drinks 60%    Higher taxes on banks100%    Hold a UK referendum on Lisbon EU Treaty 27%    Homosexuality - Equal rights 42%    HS2 - In Favour 18%    Human Rights and Equality 12%    Identity cards - For introduction100%    In Favour of Mass Surveillance 40%    Incentivise Low Carbon Electricity Generation 67%    Incentivise membership of press regulator100%    Increase Air Passenger Duty100%    Increase the income tax - tax free allowance 92%    Increase VAT 17%    Inheritance Tax 99%    Iraq 2003 - For the invasion 85%    Iraq Investigation - Necessary   6%    Jobs Guarantee for Long Term Young Unemployed   0%    Limit NHS Foundation Trust Private Patient Income100%    Localise Council Tax Support 58%    Lower taxes on petrol & diesel for motor vehicles100%    Make High Earners Pay Market Rent for Council Home 19%    Make it easier to trigger a new election for an MP 25%    Mansion Tax 66%    Mass Retention of Communications Data 47%    Measures to reduce tax avoidance.100%    Merge Police and Fire under Police & Crime Cmmr100%    Military Action against Daesh / ISIL  1%    Ministers Can Intervene in Coroners' Inquests 16%    Minumum Wage 50%    More funds for social care   0%    More Generous Benefits for Ill and Disabled 31%    More powers for local councils 35%    No detention without charge or trial   0%    No Polls Clash With MP Election System Referendum 57%    Nuclear power - For   1%    Parliamentary scrutiny - Reduce 17%    Pension auto-enrolment - For100%    Phase out of Tenancies for Life100%    Police and Crime Commissioners   0%    Post office - in favour of Government policy100%    Post office closures - against   0%    Prevent abuse of zero hours contracts100%    Privatise Royal Mail 65%    Promote Occupational Pensions   6%    Proportional Representation Voting System - For 54%    Protesting near Parliament - Unrestricted 16%    Public Ownership of Railways   0%    Rail Fares - Lower 95%    Recreational drugs - Against legalization 86%    Reduce capital gains tax 92%    Reduce central funding for local government 97%    Reduce Spending on Welfare Benefits 96%    Reduce the rate of Corporation Tax 85%    Reducing the number of MPs - for100%    Referendum on Alternative Vote for MP Elections 72%    Referendum on the UK's membership of the EU - For100%    Referendums for Directly Elected City Mayors 71%    Register of Lobbyists 50%    Regulation of Shale Gas Extraction 40%    Remove Hereditary Peers from the House of Lords100%    Replace Higher Education Grants with Loans 38%    Require Pub Companies to Offer Rent Only Leases100%    Restrict 3rd party campaigners during elections 90%    Restrict Scope of Legal Aid   0%    Retain funds from council house sales locally100%    Retention of Business Rates by Local Government 12%    Right for EU Citizens in the UK to Stay 36%    Right to strike 39%    Same Sex Marriage - for100%    Schools - Greater Autonomy100%    Sell England's Public Forests 16%    Smoking ban - In favour   9%    State control of bus services 35%    Stop climate change   6%    Stronger Military Covenant 56%    Tax Incentives for Companies Investing in Assets   0%    Teach children about drugs, sexuality and health   0%    Termination of pregnancy - against 19%    Terrorism laws - For100%    The UK should not ratify the Lisbon Treaty100%    Tougher on illegal immigration100%    Trade Union Regulation 26%    Transexuality - Against legal recognition 54%    Transparency of Parliament100%    Trident replacement - In favour100%    Tuition fees - Set Upper Limit at £9,000 per Year 93%    University education fees - Should be free 46%    University Tuition Fees - For 97%    Use of UK Military Forces Overseas   0%    Voting age - Reduce to 16 17%    War - Parliamentary authority not necessary   0%    Welfare benefits ought rise in line with prices Quote
greenknight Posted May 2, 2017 Report Posted May 2, 2017 This is truly painful already. No credible opposition ...the worst in my lifetime. I have had my lovely note through the door from Jesse having just come home from Chelmsford where I have never seen so many high street sleeping bags though the numbers in Hereford are growing as is the begging. The roads are in terminal decline yet we are more bothered about speeding fines I just don't get it. Hereford High Street is starting to fill up with the consequences of national and local government, eventually the charities will run out of cash and then the realisation of how bad things are will become visible. Even on this site there is nothing like the range of contributors as seen a few years ago. We appear to be resigned to our fate...depressing. Quote
H.Wilson Posted May 3, 2017 Report Posted May 3, 2017 Well you could always put your trust in this lot  http://youtu.be/rneBbKrVE7A Quote
greenknight Posted May 3, 2017 Report Posted May 3, 2017 I heard the Diane Abbott radio interview..this is one of the more senior shadow ministers in this outfit and of course she has "held" more than a close ear to the main man...shameful. Quote
Maggie May Posted May 3, 2017 Report Posted May 3, 2017 I intend to vote but I am waiting to see who has what policies before I make a decision. Remember that many thought the Brexit vote would be for remain, but it changed. I know that was on a simple majority, but if all our young people turn out and vote, and most of you posters choose not to, then things could change. My vote will not be about Brexit or Europe but about the future for our country such as our National Health service, our roads, our economy, social care for young and old, and who I feel I can trust. I welcomed seeing prospective MPs at the River Carnival because it isn't about sound bites of a couple of people on the TV or Radio but who will best represent my views in Parliament. Yes it might sound as if I am naive, but that will be my approach. In view of the local situation and nationally I am certainly looking to vote for someone other than the Conservatives as I disagree with many of their policies and what they are doing to our country, and that it nothing to do with Brexit. At the moment I have been quite interested in what the Green Party is offering. Herefordshire has been very innovative on sustainable energy, and making the Country more resilient, which to my view is what will make our economy stronger and protect future generations against the worst effect of climate change. Quote
megilleland Posted May 9, 2017 Report Posted May 9, 2017 From Jesse Norman's website:  I’m not currently an MP, as Parliament has been dissolved until after the General Election on 8th June 2017.While there are now no Members of Parliament until after the election of 8th June, my Parliamentary office can still be contacted at Suite 2, Penn House, Broad Street, Hereford HR4 9AP, by phone at 01432 276 422 or by email via jesse.norman.mp@parliament.uk.  So who is running the country?  Quote from New StatesmanPractically speaking, for the next six weeks the country is in the hands of a 25 strong club of advisers. Try naming one. Quote
megilleland Posted May 11, 2017 Report Posted May 11, 2017 From Herefordshire Council News - 11th May 2017Herefordshire Council’s electoral services have published the ‘Statement of Persons Nominated’, which details the constituency candidates standing for the UK General Election on 8 June 2017. North Herefordshire Constituency:  Ellie Chowns – The Green Party Arthur St John Devine – Independent Jeanie Falconer – Liberal Democrats   Sasha Rose Alicia Norris – IndependentRoger William Page – Labour PartyBill Wiggin – The Conservative PartyHereford and South Herefordshire Constituency:Anna Coda – Labour PartyLucy Ann Hurds – Liberal DemocratsJim Kenyon – IndependentJesse Norman – The Conservative PartyGwyn James Price – UK Independence Party (UKIP) Diana Stella Toynbee – The Green PartyThe deadline to register to vote in the General Election is 22 May 2017. Postal and proxy votes can be requested online until 23 May 2017.Further information about the General Election can be found on the Herefordshire Council website.Visit www.herefordshire.gov.uk/voting to register to vote in just a few minutes. Quote
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