megilleland Posted May 11, 2017 Report Posted May 11, 2017 UK results 2015 UK election for comparison:Conservative (331 seats) - 11,334,576 votesLabour (232 seats) - 9,347,304 votesUKIP (1 seat) - 3,881,099 votesLiberal Democrat (8 seats)- 2,415,862 votesScottish National Party (56 seats)- 1,454,436 votesGreen Party (1 seat) - 1,157,613 votesTurnout 66.1%Electorate 46,420,413Hereford & Herefordshire SouthConservative - Jesse Norman 24,844UKIP - Nigel Ely 7,954Labour - Anna Coda 6,042Liberal Democrat - Lucy Hurds 5,002Green Party - Diana Toynbee 3,415Con majority 16,890Turnout 66.8%Herefordshire NorthConservative - Bill Wiggin 26,716UKIP - Jonathan Oakton 6,720Liberal Democrat - Jeanie Falconer 5,768Labour - Sally Prentice 5,478Green Party - Daisy Blench 3,341 Con majority 19,996Turnout 72.0% With six nominations in each constituency for this coming election both MPs are going to increase their 2017 election majority. Divide and rule wins again. Quote
ragwert Posted May 13, 2017 Author Report Posted May 13, 2017 I'd vote for her if I saw her like this Quote
DILLIGAF Posted May 21, 2017 Report Posted May 21, 2017 Rumour has it that the PM will be visiting the shire this week. Think JN might be a little scared of a certain candidate in the run up to the GE, and needing a little advice and shoulder to cry on! Let's face it JK has done more for Herefordshire in the past 12m than JN has done collectively. Quote
Denise Lloyd Posted May 22, 2017 Report Posted May 22, 2017 Oh sorry I have just posted this on the other forum prior to reading this Quote
ragwert Posted May 25, 2017 Author Report Posted May 25, 2017 How right was Jeremy Corbyn in 2003 Quote
megilleland Posted May 30, 2017 Report Posted May 30, 2017 Another one to add to the collection - sorry I meant the election! A song accusing Theresa May of being a "liar" has reached number three in the iTunes charts and the top 10 radio charts.“Liar Liar Ge2017â€, produced and performed by Captain Ska, skewers the Prime Minister on the NHS, education and poverty, and her party's several recent U-turns including calling the snap election. The chorus and easy-to-sing-along melody – “She’s a liar, liar, you can’t trust her, no no no no†– has helped the song to overtake Miley Cyrus, Niall Horan and Ed Sheeran. Cheered me up no end. Quote
Colin James Posted May 30, 2017 Report Posted May 30, 2017 Well after seeing the debate last night on Sky and listening to the various pundits this morning, they all say Teresa May did better overall and I agree. Quote
greenknight Posted June 1, 2017 Report Posted June 1, 2017 Yeah but to be honest Colin the bar isn't set very high in any shape or form...mind you Amber Rudd looks like a useful minder to have. I reckon she might be handy in a fist fight. Quote
Colin James Posted June 1, 2017 Report Posted June 1, 2017 Yeah but to be honest Colin the bar isn't set very high in any shape or form...mind you Amber Rudd looks like a useful minder to have. I reckon she might be handy in a fist fight. ha ha Quote
ragwert Posted June 2, 2017 Author Report Posted June 2, 2017 corbyn-dianne-abbot-640x336.jpg About right too Only one candidate has knocked on my door not 20 mins ago...Jim Kenyon Quote
Glenda Powell Posted June 2, 2017 Report Posted June 2, 2017 No candidates other than Jesse Norman has knocked my door. I had the Lib Dems leaflet last week and Labour and Independent leaflet just pushed through my door this morning. I am waiting to see the Question Time program tonight 8.30pm BBC 1. with Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn, I think and hope the audience will take the PM apart !. Quote
H.Wilson Posted June 2, 2017 Report Posted June 2, 2017 No candidates other than Jesse Norman has knocked my door. I had the Lib Dems leaflet last week and Labour and Independent leaflet just pushed through my door this morning. I am waiting to see the Question Time program tonight 8.30pm BBC 1. with Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn, I think and hope the audience will take the PM apart !. I never had you down for a Corbyn supporter? God help us if he gets in Quote
Glenda Powell Posted June 2, 2017 Report Posted June 2, 2017 H Wilson. I am NOT a Corbyn supporter!!! Quote
greenknight Posted June 3, 2017 Report Posted June 3, 2017 Mrs May is far more removed from the general public than I realised and to be honest she's been pretty distant even in the election period. If there is no hung parliament then we will be back here before the term is up unless May steps down otherwise we should all be prepared for civil unrest. She may believe in the British people but is she truly representative of the British people because she seems pretty removed to me. A rising star is needed within emerging politics to take the wheel. Quote
H.Wilson Posted June 3, 2017 Report Posted June 3, 2017 Mrs May is far more removed from the general public than I realised and to be honest she's been pretty distant even in the election period. If there is no hung parliament then we will be back here before the term is up unless May steps down otherwise we should all be prepared for civil unrest. She may believe in the British people but is she truly representative of the British people because she seems pretty removed to me. A rising star is needed within emerging politics to take the wheel. May in my view is the ONLY choice, can you imagine the chaos Corbyn being PM and Diane Abbott home secretary! What a joke Quote
greenknight Posted June 3, 2017 Report Posted June 3, 2017 I don't disagree H but in a twisted way we may get a similar outcome. My landlady got another mailshot today. The strap line being: Theresa May...strong stable leadership in the national interest. My feeling is that it should read: Weak,unstable dictatorship during national unrest. We shall just have to hope for the best and the saviour! Quote
H.Wilson Posted June 3, 2017 Report Posted June 3, 2017 I don't disagree H but in a twisted way we may get a similar outcome. My landlady got another mailshot today. The strap line being: Theresa May...strong stable leadership in the national interest. My feeling is that it should read: Weak,unstable dictatorship during national unrest. We shall just have to hope for the best and the saviour! Quote
greenknight Posted June 3, 2017 Report Posted June 3, 2017 As I said before..I'm no fan of labour either but to be honest at the time I don't remember to much resistance from the Conservative back benches when we went into Iraq. As for Europe well there is a fair number of blue that support the pro Europe bag as we know. Tuition fees ..Well has this government reversed this process ...they have had long enough. Quote
ragwert Posted June 4, 2017 Author Report Posted June 4, 2017 Pretty good read. Here's what I'm really struggling to understand. All I've ever heard from people, for years, is: "bloody bankers and their bonuses""bloody rich and their offshore tax havens ""bloody politicians with their lying and second homes" “bloody corporations paying less tax than meâ€"bloody Establishment, they're all in it togetherâ€â€œit'll never change, there's no point in voting†And quite rightly so, I said all the same things. But then someone comes along that's different. He upsets the bankers and the rich. The Tory politicians hate him along with most of the labour politicians. The corporations throw more money at the politicians to keep him quiet. And the Establishment is visibly shaken. I've never seen the Establishment so genuinely scared of a single person. So the media arm of the establishment gets involved. Theresa phones Rupert asking what he can do, and he tells her to keep her mouth shut, don't do the live debate, he'll sort this out. So the media goes into overdrive with: “she's strong and stableâ€â€œhe's a clownâ€â€œhe's not a leaderâ€â€œlook he can't even control his own partyâ€â€œhe'll ruin the economyâ€â€œhow's he gonna pay for it all?!â€â€œAND he's a terrorist sympathiser, burn him, burn the terrorist sympathiser†And what do we? We've waited forever for an honest politician to come along but instead of getting behind him we bow to the establishment like good little workers. They whistle and we do a little dance for them. We run around like hypnotised robots repeating headlines we've read, all nodding and agreeing. Feeling really proud of ourselves because we think we've came up with our very own first political opinion. But we haven't, we haven't came up with anything. This is how you tell. No matter where someone lives in the country, they're repeating the same headlines, word for word. From Cornwall to Newcastle people are saying: “he's a clownâ€â€œhe’s a threat to the countryâ€â€œshe's strong and stableâ€â€œhe'll take us back to the 70s†And there's nothing else, there's no further opinion. There's no evidence apart from 1 radio 5 interview that isn't even concrete evidence, he actually condemns the violence of both sides in the interview. There's no data or studies or official reports to back anything up. Try and think really hard why you think he's a clown, other than the fact he looks like a geography teacher. (no offence geography teachers) because he hasn't done anything clownish from what I've seen. And you're not on this planet if you think the establishment and the media aren't all in it together. You think Richard Branson, who's quietly winning NHS contracts, wants Corbyn in?You think Rupert Murdoch, who's currently trying to widen his media monopoly by buying sky outright, wants Jeremy in?You think the Barclay brothers, with their offshore residencies, want him in?You think Philip Green, who stole all the pensions from BHS workers and claims his wife owns Top Shop because she lives in Monaco, wants Corbyn in?You think the politicians, both Labour and Tory, with their second homes and alcohol paid for by us, want him in?You think Starbucks, paying near zero tax, wants him in?You think bankers, with their multi million pound bonuses, want him in? And do you think they don't have contact with May? Or with the media? You honestly think that these millionaires and billionaires are the sort of people that go “ah well, easy come easy go, it was nice while it lastedâ€?? I wouldn't be if my personal fortune was at risk, I'd be straight on the phone to Theresa May or Rupert Murdoch demanding this gets sorted immediately. Because here's a man, a politician that doesn't lie - he can't lie - he could have said whatever would get him votes anytime he wanted but he hasn't. He lives in a normal house like us and uses the bus just like us. He's fought for justice and peace for nearly 40 years. He has no career ambitions. And his seat is untouchable. That's one of the greatest testimonies. No one comes close to removing him from his constituency, election after election. His Manifesto is fully costed. It all adds up, yes there's some borrowing but that's just to renationalise the railway, you know we already subsidise them and they make profit yeah? One more time… WE subsidise the railway companies and they walk away with a profit, just try and grasp the level of pi*% taking going on there. Unlike the Tory manifesto with a £9 billion hole, their figures don't even add up. And it benefits all of us, young, old, working, disabled, everyone. The only people it hurts are the establishment, the rich, the bankers, the top 5% highest earners. Good, screw them. It's long overdue,vote Labour,for the many not the few. Quote
bobby47 Posted June 4, 2017 Report Posted June 4, 2017 Ragwert, Very well written. Well done. This is exactly how I feel and how I see things. My warmest regards and congratulations on what is the best piece of work I've ever read on any political blog. Rob. Quote
ragwert Posted June 5, 2017 Author Report Posted June 5, 2017 Ragwert, Very well written. Well done. This is exactly how I feel and how I see things. My warmest regards and congratulations on what is the best piece of work I've ever read on any political blog. Rob. Not my words Rob but yeah,exactly how I see it too. Quote
ragwert Posted June 5, 2017 Author Report Posted June 5, 2017 Have a listen to former senior met officer Peter Kirkham calling Theresa May what she is,a liarhttps://www.facebook.com/walkingthebreadline/videos/1465876576766807/?hc_location=ufi Quote
ragwert Posted June 5, 2017 Author Report Posted June 5, 2017 Far from me liking anything to do with the BNP but Tony Robinson has a pointhttps://www.facebook.com/thetommyrobinson/videos/1027617387374315/ Quote
Paul Jones Posted June 6, 2017 Report Posted June 6, 2017 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/diane-abbott-general-election-latest-car-crash-interview-dermot-murnaghan-lord-harris-terror-report-a7774626.html Quote
Denise Lloyd Posted June 6, 2017 Report Posted June 6, 2017 Julie Etchingham asked Theresa May what was the naughtiest thing she ever she was very coy and ummed and aahed for a little while then said probably it was when her and her friends used to run through fields of wheat and the farmer was not very pleased - mmmmmmmmmmm Quote
ragwert Posted June 6, 2017 Author Report Posted June 6, 2017 May in my view is the ONLY choice, can you imagine the chaos Corbyn being PM and Diane Abbott home secretary! What a joke I think the seven years of austerity,the huge cuts in police,NHS ,Education,the rich getting richer the poorer getting poorer,etc etc.are a joke. She's shown all of us how weak she is.I watch her speaking (or trying to) on TV and think is this our PM. Quote
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