Hereford Voice Posted October 29, 2019 Report Posted October 29, 2019 The British people will head to the polls in a 'General Election' on Thursday 12 December 2019. Your thoughts...
Steve Major Posted October 30, 2019 Report Posted October 30, 2019 Boris for me and time to get shot of Corbyn and his cabinet of clowns 1 1
megilleland Posted October 31, 2019 Report Posted October 31, 2019 It's all down to tactical voting otherwise nothing's going to change.
Colin James Posted November 1, 2019 Report Posted November 1, 2019 Can't think of anything wrong with Jeremy Corbyn apart from... Invited two IRA members to parliament two weeks after the Brighton bombing. Attended Bloody Sunday commemoration with bomber Brendan McKenna. Attended meeting with Provisional IRA member Raymond McCartney. Hosted IRA linked Mitchell McLaughlin in parliament. Spoke alongside IRA terrorist Martina Anderson. Attended Sinn Fein dinner with IRA bomber Gerry Kelly. Chaired Irish republican event with IRA bomber Brendan MacFarlane. Attended Bobby Sands commemoration honouring IRA terrorists. Stood in minute’s silence for IRA gunmen shot dead by the SAS. Refused to condemn the IRA in Sky News interview. Refused to condemn the IRA on Question Time. Refused to condemn IRA violence in BBC radio interview. Signed EDM after IRA Poppy massacre blaming Britain for the deaths. Arrested while protesting in support of Brighton bomber’s co-defendants. Lobbied government to improve visiting conditions for IRA killers. Attended Irish republican event calling for armed conflict against Britain. Hired suspected IRA man Ronan Bennett as a parliamentary assistant. Hired another aide closely linked to several convicted IRA terrorists. Heavily involved with IRA sympathising newspaper London Labour Briefing. Put up £20,000 bail money for IRA terror suspect Roisin McAliskey. Didn’t support IRA ceasefire. Said Hamas and Hezbollah are his “friends“. Called for Hamas to be removed from terror banned list. Called Hamas “serious and hard-working“. Attended wreath-laying at grave of Munich massacre terrorist. Attended conference with Hamas and PFLP. Photographed smiling with Hezbollah flag. Attended rally with Hezbollah and Al-Muhajiroun. Repeatedly shared platforms with PFLP plane hijacker. Hired aide who praised Hamas’ “spirit of resistance“. Accepted £20,000 for state TV channel of terror-sponsoring Iranian regime. Opposed banning Britons from travelling to Syria to fight for ISIS. Defended rights of fighters returning from Syria. Said ISIS supporters should not be prosecuted. Compared fighters returning from Syria to Nelson Mandela. Said the death of Osama Bin Laden was a “tragedy“. Wouldn’t sanction drone strike to kill ISIS leader. Voted to allow ISIS fighters to return from Syria. Opposed shoot to kill. Attended event organised by terrorist sympathising IHRC. Signed letter defending Lockerbie bombing suspects. Wrote letter in support of conman accused of fundraising for ISIS. Spoke of “friendship” with Mo Kozbar, who called for destruction of Israel. Attended event with Abdullah Djaballah, who called for holy war against UK. Called drone strikes against terrorists “obscene”. Boasted about “opposing anti-terror legislation”. Said laws banning jihadis from returning to Britain are “strange”. Accepted £5,000 donation from terror supporter Ted Honderich. Accepted £2,800 trip to Gaza from banned Islamist organisation Interpal. Called Ibrahim Hewitt, extremist and chair of Interpal, a “very good friend”. Accepted two more trips from the pro-Hamas group PRC. Speaker at conference hosted by pro-Hamas group MEMO. Met Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh several times. Hosted meeting with Mousa Abu Maria of banned group Islamic Jihad. Patron of Palestine Solidarity Campaign – marches attended by Hezbollah. Compared Israel to ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah and al-Qaeda. Said we should not make “value judgements” about Britons who fight for ISIS. Received endorsement from Hamas. Attended event with Islamic extremist Suliman Gani. Chaired Stop the War, who praised “internationalism and solidarity” of ISIS. Praised Raed Salah, who was jailed for inciting violence in Israel. Signed letter defending jihadist advocacy group Cage. Met Dyab Jahjah, who praised the killing of British soldiers. Shared platform with representative of extremist cleric Muqtada al-Sadr. Compared ISIS to US military in interview on Russia Today. Opposed proscription of Hizb ut-Tahrir. Attended conference which called on Iraqis to kill British soldiers. Attended Al-Quds Day demonstration in support of destruction of Israel. Supported Hamas and ISIS-linked Viva Palestina group. Attended protest with Islamic extremist Moazzam Begg. Made the “case for Iran” at event hosted by Khomeinist group. Photographed smiling with Azzam Tamimi, who backed suicide bombings. Photographed with Abdel Atwan, who sympathised with attacks on US troops. Said Hamas should “have tea with the Queen”. Attended ‘Meet the Resistance’ event with Hezbollah MP Hussein El Haj. Attended event with Haifa Zangana, who praised Palestinian “mujahideen”. Defended the infamous anti-Semitic Hamas supporter Stephen Sizer. Attended event with pro-Hamas and Hezbollah group Naturei Karta. Backed Holocaust denying anti-Zionist extremist Paul Eisen. Photographed with Abdul Raoof Al Shayeb, later jailed for terror offences. Mocked “anti-terror hysteria” while opposing powers for security services. Named on speakers list for conference with Hamas sympathiser Ismail Patel. Criticised drone strike that killed Jihadi John. Said the 7/7 bombers had been denied “hope and opportunity”. Said 9/11 was “manipulated” to make it look like bin Laden was responsible. Failed to unequivocally condemn the 9/11 attacks. Called Columbian terror group M-19 “comrades”. Blamed beheading of Alan Henning on Britain. Gave speech in support of Gaddafi regime. Signed EDM spinning for Slobodan Milosevic. Blamed Tunisia terror attack on “austerity”. Voted against banning support for the IRA. Voted against the Prevention of Terrorism Act three times during the Troubles. Voted against emergency counter-terror laws after 9/11. Voted against stricter punishments for being a member of a terror group. Voted against criminalising the encouragement of terrorism. Voted against banning al-Qaeda. Voted against outlawing the glorification of terror. Voted against control orders. Voted against increased funding for the security services to combat terrorism. 1
megilleland Posted November 3, 2019 Report Posted November 3, 2019 35 minutes ago, megilleland said: I give up trying to put a timer for general election on this post
megilleland Posted November 9, 2019 Report Posted November 9, 2019 Election period timetable 6 November - Parliament dissolved Parliament will be officially dissolved shortly after midnight and suspended from the start of the following day. This will trigger the five week campaign period before the polling date and, as dictated by election laws, MPs will not sit in the Commons for 25 working days in the lead-up to the vote. This also marks the beginning of "purdah", the pre-election period during which there are restrictions on what civil servants are allowed to do. They must continue to work but must avoid anything that could influence the election - such as by publishing a press release promoting the governing party - or that could call into question their impartiality. During this time the governing party should not make any long term plans or policy decisions for the country unless deemed necessary. 7 November - Receipt of writ The election writ - the legal documents authorise the holding of a general election or by-election - is issued declaring a vote will be held in each constituency. 11 November - Notice of election The publication of notice of election must be given in constituencies no later than 4pm 14 November - Candidates' deadline All candidates wishing to stand in the election must have submitted their nomination papers by 4pm in order to stand in the election. This is also the deadline for those withdrawing from the election race or for anyone wishing to make an objection to a candidate standing. 16 November - Candidate lists published Once all the nominations have been received and confirmed, the final lists of candidates will be published. You will be able to see the list of who is standing in your constituency by looking on your local authority website or on a noticeboard in their offices, where the names should be published. 26 November - Voter registration deadlineThe final deadline to register to vote for the election, which you can do by visiting the Government website, is at midnight. If you do not register to vote by this date you will not be able to vote in the election on 12 December. The deadline for those wishing to apply for postal voting for the first time, or for those wishing to change preferences for proxy voting, is at 5pm. 3 December - NATO Summit From 3 to 4 December the 2019 NATO Summit will take place in London. This will mean that the world's leaders - including US President Trump and European leaders - will descend on the capital whilst MPs are in full campaign flow and just a week before the final vote. 4 December - Proxy voting deadline The deadline for those wishing to apply to vote by proxy for the first time is 5pm. There is scope to vote by proxy if you have not applied by this date if you suffer from an emergency which will prevent you from voting. 12 December - Polling day The polls will open from 7.00 am to 10.00 pm. After they close at 10.00 pm exit polls will be published which will give the first indication as to what the final result will be. The results will then be published throughout the night and early hours of the morning. 13 December - Result By mid-morning the following day we will know what the next Parliament is going to look like. If no majority is won the leader of the biggest party will enter into talks with others about forming a coalition government or a confidence and supply arrangement.
megilleland Posted November 9, 2019 Report Posted November 9, 2019 Wealth of information about the election: whether it's turns out to be true will be seen. Electoral Calculus for Hereford and South Herefordshire seat Topics covered: * Hereford and South Herefordshire: Seat, Ward and Prediction Details * Hereford and South Herefordshire: Overview * Hereford and South Herefordshire : Political and Demographic indicators * Hereford and South Herefordshire: Map * Hereford and South Herefordshire: Ward-by-ward Should keep you amused.
megilleland Posted November 9, 2019 Report Posted November 9, 2019 Also information for Electoral Calculus for Hereford North seat Topics covered: * Hereford North: Seat, Ward and Prediction Details * Hereford North: Overview * Hereford North: Political and Demographic indicators * Hereford North: Map * Hereford North: Ward-by-ward More amusement.
megilleland Posted November 9, 2019 Report Posted November 9, 2019 The Slog comments that: Owen Jones and Nigel Farage may well be sharing tears in their beers on December 13th The company Electoral Calculus has just produced this prediction of the likely outcome on 12th December.
megilleland Posted November 11, 2019 Report Posted November 11, 2019 Nigel Farage says the Brexit Party will NOT stand against the Tories in the general election - but WILL target Labour-held seats. Not that it would of made much difference to the vote in Hereford and South Herefordshire seat. Although it would have been nice to vote BREXIT because all the others are a waste of time. I just hope Boris stands by his promise to get us out of the EU, although his BREXIT is not a no deal, but one with strings attached.
Denise Lloyd Posted November 12, 2019 Report Posted November 12, 2019 Am I the only one who is struggling to drum up any enthusiasm to even vote. The way they have all behaved recently is shameful and a disgrace to the country. They just play around whilst Rome burns!
bobby47 Posted November 12, 2019 Report Posted November 12, 2019 Denise is struggling! Who isn’t! I’ve come to the conclusion that you may as well vote for the Candidate who’s least likely to burgle your home and steal all your belongings or accost you outside the Commercial Ale House and beat you senseless for absolutely no reason at all. Irrational? Perhaps. But it’s no more or less irrational than voting for the oily, yellow bellied tw.at who promises you it all and then delivers you nothing. Voting for them and believing their pledges is an irrationality in itself and so, if I vote, and frankly at the moment I can’t be bloody bothered, I’ll vote for the Candidate who’s got the Far Away Messianic Christ Like Eyes who just might be carrying the marks of the Holy Stigmata that suggests to stupid gullible idiots like me that Jesus has returned for a second time. 1
Denise Lloyd Posted November 12, 2019 Report Posted November 12, 2019 At home all day and surprise surprise I had a Sorry I missed you card/leaflet from the Jess. I even saw the lady who was delivering them walk past my house after putting the leaflet through my letter box..There was also a very flat no punch can I be bothered pitch from Jess Says it all really if they can't be bothered can I be bothered to keep them in their jobs so that they can continue to behave like little kids
megilleland Posted November 14, 2019 Report Posted November 14, 2019 Here are the candidates for the forthcoming election - all leavers except Jesse Norman who follows his leader religiously, but can you trust him to get us out? Looks like I won't be voting as it is appears to be a second referendum with no real BREXIT leaver on the ballot paper. Always thought we lived in a banana republic. Shouldn't be long before we are shafted and annexed to the EU just in time to pay our next financial instalments to cover the creation of an EU army and when the financial crash returns, bailing out the EU Banks when they crash. Statement_of_Persons_Nominated___Hereford_and_South_Herefordshire.pdf
megilleland Posted November 16, 2019 Report Posted November 16, 2019 Who Can I Vote For? This site has a wealth of information on the candidates standing. However not much to chose from. Most are remainers and not worth a walk to the polling station for.
megilleland Posted November 23, 2019 Report Posted November 23, 2019 Anyone had any canvassers on their doorstep yet?
Glenda Powell Posted November 23, 2019 Report Posted November 23, 2019 Yes I had Cllr Paul Rone who represents Redhill posting pamphlets for Jesse Norman through my door on Wednesday
twowheelsgood Posted November 23, 2019 Report Posted November 23, 2019 I've had a Labour leaflet, which went straight in the recycling unread, and a Green leaflet. No canvassers.
Peter Thomas-Cruttwell Posted November 24, 2019 Report Posted November 24, 2019 Jesse and Boris for me
megilleland Posted November 26, 2019 Report Posted November 26, 2019 These catalogs of events reinforce my reason for leaving - Courtesy of Slog commentator Gulagirid. Notice the Brexit Party beginning to highlight EU military unification. The signing of the Treaty of Lisbon took place in Lisbon, Portugal on 13 December 2007. KNOWN OUTCOMES OF LISBON TREATY THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN AGREED AS TRUE BY ALL SIDES: 1: The UK along with all existing members of the EU lose their abstention veto in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon Treaty when the system changes to that of majority acceptance with no abstentions or veto’s being allowed. 2: All member nations will become states of the new federal nation of the EU by 2022 as clearly laid out in the Lisbon treaty with no exceptions or veto’s. 3: All member states must adopt the Euro by 2022 and any new member state must do so within 2 years of joining the EU as laid down in the Lisbon treaty. 4: The London stock exchange will move to Frankfurt in 2020 and be integrated into the EU stock exchange resulting in a loss of 200,000 plus jobs in the UK because of the relocation. (This has already been pre-agreed and is only on a holding pattern due to the Brexit negotiations, which if Brexit does happen, the move is fully cancelled – but if not and the UK remains a member it’s full steam ahead for the move.) 5: The EU Parliament and ECJ become supreme over all legislative bodies of the UK 6: The UK will adopt 100% of whatever the EU Parliament and ECJ lays down without any means of abstention or veto, negating the need for the UK to have the Lords or even the Commons as we know it today. 7: The UK will NOT be able to make its own trade deals. 8: The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade tariffs. 9: The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade quotas. 10: The UK loses control of its fishing rights 11: The UK loses control of its oil and gas rights 12: The UK loses control of its borders and enters the Schengen region by 2022 – as clearly laid down in the Lisbon treaty 13: The UK loses control of its planning legislation 14: The UK loses control of its armed forces including its nuclear deterrent 15: The UK loses full control of its taxation policy 16: The UK loses the ability to create its own laws and to implement them 17: The UK loses its standing in the Commonwealths 18: The UK loses control of any provinces or affiliated nations e.g.: Falklands, Cayman Islands, Gibraltar etc 19: The UK loses control of its judicial system 20: The UK loses control of its international policy 21: The UK loses full control of its national policy 22: The UK loses its right to call itself a nation in its own right. 23: The UK loses control of its space exploration program 24: The UK loses control of its Aviation and Sea lane jurisdiction 25: The UK loses its rebate in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon treaty 26: The UK’s contribution to the EU is set to increase by an average of £1.2bn pa and by £2.3bn pa by 2020 With thanks to ‘UK in a Changing Europe’ and Professor Steve Peers for their help. Looks like we are going to go down the plug hole if we stay in.
megilleland Posted November 26, 2019 Report Posted November 26, 2019 Posted from Brexit is finished: Quote Many years ago in the 1970s, I purchased a book in a junk shop - EF Schumacher's "Small is Beautiful". ironically his book came out on the eve of the vote on the European Common Market in 1975 – but he believed such scale led to a dehumanisation of people and the economic systems that ordered their lives. You don't come much bigger than the flatulated EU. Many of the issues Schumacher raises we are still wrestling with. He questioned the shibboleth of economic growth as the central preoccupation of politics; he talked of resource constraints on economic development. Above all, he insisted again and again that human happiness would not be achieved through material wealth. Its such a shame that many of our national and european politicians only seek to increase their own material wealth to the detriment of those around them. What Schumacher wanted was a people-centred economics because that would, in his view, enable environmental and human sustainability. Earlier than this, in 1957, E F Schumacher's tutor Leopold Kohr’s published his most popular work "The Breakdown of Nations" “… there seems to be only one cause behind all forms of social misery: bigness. Oversimplified as this may seem, we shall find the idea more easily acceptable if we consider that bigness, or oversize, is really much more than just a social problem. It appears to be the one and only problem permeating all creation. Whenever something is wrong, something is too big. … And if the body of a people becomes diseased with the fever of aggression, brutality, collectivism, or massive idiocy, it is not because it has fallen victim to bad leadership or mental derangement. It is because human beings, so charming as individuals or in small aggregations, have been welded into over concentrated social units”. How true this is today where systems are side lining the individual for the pursuit of so called efficiencies when in reality all they do is hamper, frustrate and ignore that person creating a futile environment.
Robmozz Posted November 26, 2019 Report Posted November 26, 2019 That Lisbon treaty list has been debunked by fullfact https://fullfact.org/europe/viral-list-about-lisbon-treaty-wrong/
megilleland Posted November 26, 2019 Report Posted November 26, 2019 46 minutes ago, Robmozz said: That Lisbon treaty list has been debunked by fullfact https://fullfact.org/europe/viral-list-about-lisbon-treaty-wrong/ Faux Facts - The disturbing Truth About fullfact.org It depends on which facts you want to believe. Personally I'll make my own mind up and leave others to decide themselves.
twowheelsgood Posted November 27, 2019 Report Posted November 27, 2019 Had my Jesse leaflet through the door now - surprised to see him claiming credit for "£23m investment under way at the old boys school on Blackfriars St by NMITE ..." Jeez, as if they haven't spent enough on the site already! It is, of course, (I hope) a mistake, but it's not good enough. Overleaf, he claims his campaign has won £23m of government funding for NMITE - a different story altogether. By coincidence he also claims credit for a £23m programme at the County. So how accurate are these and other claims?!
ragwert Posted December 10, 2019 Report Posted December 10, 2019 I know he's a bit of a tit but .......
Denise Lloyd Posted December 11, 2019 Report Posted December 11, 2019 I say that is an insult to a *** what about a bit of a dick! 1
megilleland Posted December 12, 2019 Report Posted December 12, 2019 Time for a bit of humor to cheer us up on this miserable day. I am talking about the weather, but is this how are politics are going to end up?
ragwert Posted December 12, 2019 Report Posted December 12, 2019 Nicola sturgeon spotted outside polling station this morning
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