Cambo Posted February 5, 2022 Report Posted February 5, 2022 During the whole pandemic many people got filthy rich off government contracts for PPE including the dubious religious sect the Plymouth brethren/brethren according to a article in the Sunday times today they received millions from the awarding of government contracts…the brethren who own a factory down Rotherwas industrial estate as well as development land…they also have connections to political figures past & present which begs the question was there any corruption by parliamentarian involved in the awarding of these contracts? https://apple.news/AHHHWof0wTmC8_Yv2v3L9sw Quote
Cambo Posted February 8, 2022 Author Report Posted February 8, 2022 https://www.thirdsector.co.uk/brethren-members-followed-charity-commission-officials-during-preston-down-trust-dispute/governance/article/1338635 Quote
ragwert Posted February 8, 2022 Report Posted February 8, 2022 I think people forget the World literally ran out of PPE. The UK procured 32 billion items of ppe that was used to manage COVID-19, February to July 2020 alone. Quote
Cambo Posted February 8, 2022 Author Report Posted February 8, 2022 I think your missing the point ragwert it’s how these contracts were procured & won with certain companies receiving millions if not billions of government (taxpayers) money…the question you should be asking was there anything shady about how the Plymouth brethren associated businesses managed to get those contract when they had no previous experience in or supply of PPE before? Some of it being described as substandard…although they seem to be good at lobbying politicians thou putting on events at parliament with photos opportunities with the speaker of the house no less Quote
Cambo Posted February 9, 2022 Author Report Posted February 9, 2022 This is a communication that I received from a guy who has been looking into the whole Plymouth brethren set up & how they operation there businesses…later I will post a link to their website it makes for a fascinating as was as a insightful read. I am aware of the Brethren in Hereford and the part of the Rotherwas industrial estate they occupy. They have a number of businesses and properties next to the gospel hall. The only one I am aware of winning a PPE contract is Halco Europe. There are 4 main families in the Hereford Brethren the Doouss, Markham, Bushnell and the Haughton families. The Bushnell's who own Selmach are related closely (brother in laws) to those behind Unispace. The Doouss family are high up in the church. To give you an idea of scale there are 23 brethren companies on the Rotherwas (18 live and 5 dissolved), according to companies house. I always stick to facts, I also understand reluctance of press & websites to run stories. I would be more surprised if the brethren havent built strong relationships with the 2 MPs. The interesting thing in your area is how many contracts were won by companies either on the estate or in Hereford. Eumar - not brethren Meddx - not brethren Elite Plastics - not brethren but not 100% sure. Halco Europe - definitely brethren There is another but would need to search for that information. Halco & Elite are back to back with each other. Hope this helps Quote
megilleland Posted February 9, 2022 Report Posted February 9, 2022 It is not only UK's politicians taking us for a ride. While the UK government was scamming the public with many of their friends getting billions for Covid aid. Canada is also refusing to say who got dollars in Covid aid with no details on how money is spent with $240 billion handed out in the first 8 months of pandemic. Also Big Pharma continues to rake in the money. “Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land, they own and control the corporations that've long since bought and paid for, the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pocket, and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and the information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else. But I'll tell you what they don't want. They don't want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don't want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They're not interested in that. That doesn't help them.” ― George Carlin The standard business model for corporations is to lie, confuse and deny anything that may threaten their profitability. ― Steven Magee Quote
Cambo Posted February 9, 2022 Author Report Posted February 9, 2022 10 hours ago, megilleland said: It is not only UK's politicians taking us for a ride. While the UK government was scamming the public with many of their friends getting billions for Covid aid. Canada is also refusing to say who got dollars in Covid aid with no details on how money is spent with $240 billion handed out in the first 8 months of pandemic. Also Big Pharma continues to rake in the money. “Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land, they own and control the corporations that've long since bought and paid for, the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pocket, and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and the information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else. But I'll tell you what they don't want. They don't want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don't want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They're not interested in that. That doesn't help them.” ― George Carlin The standard business model for corporations is to lie, confuse and deny anything that may threaten their profitability. ― Steven Magee Listening to PMQ’s today a question about tackling fraud was raised a couple of times…if the government did actually take any real action on fraud then there would be at least half if not all the members of the Houses of Parliament being arrested on a charge of defrauding the vast majority of people in this country for a lack of representation l Quote
Cambo Posted February 9, 2022 Author Report Posted February 9, 2022 An insight into how the brethren cleverly operate their business in a most tax efficient way with a link to open and candid who have done an extensive investigation into the operations of the Plymouth brethren including the PPE contracts https://www.openandcandid.com/business.html Quote
Cambo Posted February 10, 2022 Author Report Posted February 10, 2022 https://www.openandcandid.com/grace-growth-through-ppe Quote
Cambo Posted February 10, 2022 Author Report Posted February 10, 2022 https://www.openandcandid.com/covid-contracts.html Quote
Cambo Posted March 4, 2022 Author Report Posted March 4, 2022 A little while ago I submitted a FoI request to the charity commission asking for the names of the 200 MP’s who wrote in support of the Plymouth Brethren application to be registered as a charity i have know had a response from the charity’s commission in regards to that FOI request both Herefordshire MP’s names appear on the list of MP’s so that’s both Jesse Norman & Bill Wiggins who wrote in support of the Brethren getting charitable status Quote
Cambo Posted March 4, 2022 Author Report Posted March 4, 2022 Unfortunately I’ve had to cut & paste this as I was unable to upload the PDF file So here are all of the names of the 200 MP’s past & present who wrote to the charity commission in favor of the Plymouth Brethren receiving charitable status Thank you for your request for information received by the Charity Commission 9 February 2022. You asked: “Can you tell me who were the Your request has been processed under the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FOIA). I confirm the Commission holds this information. The MPs who wrote to the Commission are as follows: Edward Leigh MP Jim Cunningham MP Jim Dobbin MP James Wharton MP Mark Durkan MP Nick Clegg MP Damian Collins MP Peter Aldous MP Alison Seabeck MP Greg Mulholland MP Karl McCartney JP MP Therese Coffey MP Nicky Morgan MP On track to meet your deadline? Visit www.gov.uk/charity-commission for help on filing your annual return and accounts t: 0300 066 9197 (General enquiries) w: www.gov.uk/charity-commission 200 MPs who wrote to the commission after it initially refused to register the Preston Down Trust please.” John Denham MP Mark Prisk MP Richard Ottaway MP Jonathan Lord MP Oliver Heald MP Peter Bone MP William Hague MP Nick de Bois MP Ian Paisley MP Nick Hurd MP Robert Syms MP Gordon Henderson MP Andrew Jones MP Steve Brine MP Keith Simpson MP Jo Johnson MP Caroline Spelman MP David Amess MP Simon Reevell MP Julian Brazier MP Paul Blomfield MP George Howarth MP David Amess MP George Howarth MP Alec Shelbrooke MP Chris Skidmore MP Brian Binley MP Michael Gove MP Peter Luff MP Fiona Bruce MP Neil Carmichael MP Helen Grant MP Margaret Beckett MP Henry Smith MP Shailesh Vara MP Peter Lilley MP Lindsay Roy MP Bill Wiggin MP Ian Swales MP Therese Villiers MP Ed Milliband MP Michael Fabricant MP Lorrainne Fulbrook MP Damian Hinds MP Page 2 of 7 Tobias Ellwood MP Claire Perry MP Andrew Bridgen MP David Laws MP David Blunkett MP Brian Donohoe MP Duncan Hames MP Daniel Kawczynski MP Henry Bellingham MP Tom Harris MP Chris Williamson MP Sajid Javid MP Marcus Jones MP Robert Buckland and Justin Tomlinson MP (joint letter) Amber Rudd MP Michael Connarty MP Stephen Barclay MP Jim Murphy MP Jeremy Hunt MP Priti Patel MP David Burrowes MP John Bercow MP Austin Mitchell MP Nigel Evans MP Mark Menzies MP Alan Johnson MP Alistair Burt MP John Stanley MP Jack Lopresti MP Nicholas Soames MP Jake Berry MP Esther McVey MP Richard Fuller MP Mike Crockart MP Wliiam McCrea MP Steven Pound MP Alex Cunningham MP Stephen Dorrell MP Greg Mulholland MP Nick Clegg MP James Paice MP John Whittingdale MP Page 3 of 7 Oliver Colville MP Nick Boles MP Jim Shannon MP George Howarth MP Ben Bradshaw MP John Redwood MP Grant Shapps MP Andrew Tyrie MP Andrew Rossindel MP Jessica Lee MP Rob Wilson MP Joe Benton MP Norman Lamb MP Bob Blackman MP Steven Brine MP George Freeman MP Simon Burns MP Gregory Campbell MP Andrew Turner MP Pete Wishart MP Malcolm Bruce MP Margaret Ritchie MP Anne Main MP Kevan Jones MP Greg Clark MP Oliver Heald MP Malcolm Wicks Richard Fuller MP Chris Huhne MP Gavin Barwell MP Geoffrey Clinton Brown MP Mark Hunter MP Julian Huppert MP Norman Lamb MP Graham Brady MP Michael Gove MP Julian Sturdy MP Pat Doherty MP David Rutley MP Jon Ashworth MP Mark Garnier MP Baroness Berridge [Note: House of Lords] Jeremy Lefroy MP Theresa May MP Page 4 of 7 Douglas Carswell MP Gordon Banks MP Nigel Adams MP Edward Timpson MP David Gauke MP Helen Goodman MP Dan Rogerson MP Damien Hinds MP Chris Skidmore MP Rosie Winterton MP Ed Vaizy MP Edward Davey MP Normal Lamb MP Andrew Bridgen MP Ian Wright MP John Leech MP Greg Mulholland MP Jesse Norman MP Stuart Andrew MP Andrew Stephenson MP Sir Gerald Howarth MP Andrea Leadsom MP Paul Maynard MP Nic Daykin MP Chris Kelly MP Stuart Jackson MP Peter Tapsell MP Jacob Rees Mogg MP Douglas Carswell MP Rober Halfron MP Louise Ellman MP Graeme Morrice MP Luciane Berger MP Lord Cormack MP Kate Green MP John Howell MP Dawn Primarolo MP John Randall MP Damien Collins MP Nick Gibb MP Heidi Alexander MP David Wright MP Mark Garnier MP Derek Twigg MP Page 5 of 7 Ann Coffey MP Barbara Keeley MP Caroline Flint MP Karen Buck MP Caroline Lucas MP Cherly Gillan MP Richard Drax MP Clive Efford MP Nadhim Zawahi MP Gareth Johnson MP Roger Godsiff MP Alistair Carmichael MP Simon Kirby MP Tom Brake MP Ben Gummer MP Ann McGuire MP Martin Caton MP Annette Brooke MP Lord Luce – house of Lords The Baroness O Cathian MP Hillary Benn MP Mark Francois MP Fabian Hamilton MP Lord Tebbit – house of Lords Yours sincerely Mrs L Whitehurst Data Protection and Information Rights team Charity Commission at PO Box 211, Bootle, L20 7YX (email: RIGA@charitycommission.gov.uk). the If you are dissatisfied with the handling of your request or the decision which has been reached, you have the right to ask for an internal review. Internal review requests must be submitted within two months of the date of this response and should be addressed to If you are not satisfied with the internal review, you are able to appeal to the Information Commissioner. Generally, the ICO cannot make a decision unless you have exhausted our review procedure. The ICO can be contacted at the Information Commissioner’s Office, Wycliffe House, Water Lane, Wilmslow, Cheshire SK9 5AF (email: Home | ICO). Page 6 of 7 Page 7 of 7 Quote
Cambo Posted March 13, 2022 Author Report Posted March 13, 2022 Not a fan of Alastair Campbell but he has a point the question also arises how much of the PPE equipment supplied by companies associated with the Plymouth brethren was defective?…& why should we the taxpayers have to bare the cost for this as Alastair Campbell puts it criminal incompetence? Quote
Aylestone Voice Posted March 14, 2022 Report Posted March 14, 2022 https://www.herefordshire.gov.uk/info/200142/planning_services/planning_application_search/details?id=220524&search-term=registered in the last 7 days&search-service=recent&search-source=items&search-item=registered in the last 7 days Quote
Cambo Posted March 15, 2022 Author Report Posted March 15, 2022 On 14/03/2022 at 09:05, Aylestone Voice said: https://www.herefordshire.gov.uk/info/200142/planning_services/planning_application_search/details?id=220524&search-term=registered in the last 7 days&search-service=recent&search-source=items&search-item=registered in the last 7 days So the planning application is for a change of use for another Brethren business spectrum products (UK) ltd which is run voluntary with all proceeds going to the regional brethren school which is a school for the members own children? Or does it except children from within the wider community? the wi Quote
megilleland Posted March 21, 2022 Report Posted March 21, 2022 Meanwhile our MPs are looking after their own interests Is the Price Right? You can be a 1p under, but not a penny over Tory MPs lobbied committee over ‘impractical’ second jobs rules At least 20 Conservative MPs lobbied a committee investigating new rules on second jobs and their behaviour in the Commons chamber, with many saying they strongly disagreed with time limits on outside work. DWP bungles benefits over 1p, as MPs rake it in Readers' comments: * I was surprised to read that the government has concluded that limits on MPs’ hours or earnings from second jobs are “impractical” (Report, 17 March). I’ve been on employment and support allowance (ESA) since I had to stop full-time work due to incurable cancer. Work is permitted while claiming ESA subject to limits on both hours and earnings. I currently work 11 hours a week for a local charity. In February, the Department for Work and Pensions terminated my benefit, without notifying me, because someone incorrectly calculated that I had earned 1p more than the permitted amount. I’m accused of earning £143 in a week. The limit is £142.99. I actually earn £142.61. I’m appealing to reverse the decision. In the meantime, the DWP has entirely stopped my benefits. We could argue about the rights and wrongs of MPs’ second jobs. We could also argue about the rights and wrongs of abrupt earnings caps for those on benefits. What the government can’t honestly do is put an entire bureaucracy in place to police the benefits system while arguing that to apply similar rules to a few hundred of its own MPs is “impractical”. You couldn’t get a clearer demonstration of how those in positions of power are not held to the same scrutiny as the rest of us. Alex Bicknell London _____________________ * Bill Wiggin seems very concerned that rules on second incomes for MPs may be so complex that they may inadvertently break them, and therefore it’s best not to have any regulation (Report, 17 March). What nonsense! But hey, it may be that Sir Bill is incapable of understanding tricky regulations. In which case we may ask – does he have the intellectual capacity to continue as an MP? What an incredibly low bar the Conservatives must have for selecting election candidates. In this parliamentary session, Wiggin has earned more than £75,000 in outside work plus ad hoc rental income of £10,000 for his London home. No wonder he’s so concerned. Gaynor Bentley Ledbury, Herefordshire ______________________ * Tory MPs lobbying to keep second jobs is understandable. After all, for a lot of them being an MP is their second job. Pete Bibby Sheffield Quote
megilleland Posted April 10, 2022 Report Posted April 10, 2022 The Department of Health and Social Care is set to pay up to £35m to dispose of unusable PPE, after admitting it expected to burn nearly 600 lorry-loads of equipment a month. Following intense criticism over plans to send “mountains” of personal protective equipment bought during the pandemic to the incinerator, CSW can reveal the department has agreed to pay two waste companies up to £17.5m apiece for PPE “recycling and recovery services”. Veolia UK and SUEZ Recycling and Recovery UK have been tasked with “managing the whole waste management process to assess, collect, handle and dispose of” equipment that DHSC no longer wants. The two “lead waste partners” are each set to bank at least £11.7m destroying unusable PPE over the next two years – rising to £17.5m if the contracts are extended for a third year. DHSC to pay up to £35m to dispose of unused pandemic PPE Waste companies to get £17.5m apiece after department admitted plans to burn mountains of equipment The Department of Health and Social Care is set to pay up to £35m to dispose of unusable PPE, after admitting it expected to burn nearly 600 lorry-loads of equipment a month. Following intense criticism over plans to send “mountains” of personal protective equipment bought during the pandemic to the incinerator, CSW can reveal the department has agreed to pay two waste companies up to £17.5m apiece for PPE “recycling and recovery services”. Veolia UK and SUEZ Recycling and Recovery UK have been tasked with “managing the whole waste management process to assess, collect, handle and dispose of” equipment that DHSC no longer wants. The two “lead waste partners” are each set to bank at least £11.7m destroying unusable PPE over the next two years – rising to £17.5m if the contracts are extended for a third year. The contracts were awarded at the end of March, after DHSC admitted it was expecting to burn 15,000 pallets of equipment – equivalent to 576 lorry-loads – per month. At last count, seven billion units of PPE have been marked as “do not supply” to the NHS after going through compliance checks – amounting to nearly one in five items bought as part of the pandemic response. Of that figure, 1.2 billion items are “wastage” – meaning they cannot be used in any setting. Jonathan Marron, director general of the department's Office for Health Improvement and Disparities, told MPs on the Public Accounts Committee last month that while efforts were being made to recycle unusable equipment where possible, "more traditional waste disposal methods" would also be needed. The two companies will assess whether equipment DHSC plans to dispose of can be recycled and present the department with options. Last week, health minister Edward Argar said the department wanted to “accelerate the speed” of its disposal programme, “particularly for stock that is likely to become out-of-date before it is ever used and is unsuitable for recycling” to cut down on storage costs – which currently stand at £2.75 per pallet per week. Argar said the department would work with the two waste companies to consider options, including "energy from waste" processes – incineration. He said while DHSC's priority is to "sell, donate, repurpose or recycle wherever we can", in many instances this will not be possible. "The majority of PPE items are designed to be single use and disposed of as medical waste and so are often made up of complex chains of polymers. These items cannot be broken down for recycling. As a result, many of the products we hold are not able to be fully recycled and around half are completely non-recyclable," he said. The department must therefore take a "realistic, pragmatic approach to managing stock and putting in place solutions that make sense economically and environmentally", he added. “Environmental concerns will be key, and we will be taking into consideration the government’s waste hierarchy, prioritising recycling, and then energy from waste for that proportion of stock which we hold that cannot be recycled." The department has also agreed to pay £122,976 to a third company, Ramco UK, for help auctioning off unused PPE stock DHSC bought in response to the Covid-19 pandemic. Individuals and companies will be able to bid for the leftover equipment. In his statement, Argar said the company had so far sold 330 million masks to two private companies through a separate process, and had other deals in the pipeline. DHSC is also looking to prolong the shelf life of PPE that has expired in a bid to cut down on waste. It recently appointed a lab to carry out tests on medical-grade face masks and visors to see whether use-by dates can be extended. and following: DHSC bought £122m PPE from Tory peer-linked firm 'for almost three times manufacturing fee'The 25 million gowns were never used after failing an inspection And so it goes on with the public being shafted. Quote
Cambo Posted May 9, 2022 Author Report Posted May 9, 2022 This looks likely to be pass a application for 3 dwellings in Broomy Hill on ground belonging to mr & mrs B Bushnell’s home who are one of the main brethren families in Hereford…one thing about a lot of these church leaders is you find as well as being good at preaching the word of the almighty from the pulpit they are extremely good at creating business opportunity’s for themselves something to be admired in a way really it’s a shame they don’t do more charitable Christian works within the local communities they are based from the wealth they have created from their business ventures? Or maybe they do we just don’t get to hear about it? https://www.herefordshire.gov.uk/info/200142/planning_services/planning_application_search/details?id=203335&search-term=203335 Quote
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