bobby47

Thank you so much for your reply Councillor Powell. I am looking forward to hearing what the other Councillors have to say and just in case this issue slips off the radar, Im going to post something once every few days so that this topic appears noticeable and the other Councillors don't miss out expressing their view upon this issue.

Some weeks ago, Councillors Paul Rone(no embarrassment is intended) and Andrew Atkinson put forward a motion for Councillors to take a cut in their pay packet. My initial reaction was to hurl bile and phlegm upon these two lads suggesting that it was a political gimmick designed to win favour from their constituents and upon the pages of the Hereford Times, I kicked them as hard as I was able to. Then, after giving it some thought, which is what I should have done in the first place, but because Im dull I didn't, I realised that this was no gimmick. It was simply two young lads choosing to do things in a different way. They simply wanted to raise the issue of huge and unsustainable salaries that exist within the Council and set an example in the hope that others would follow. Im given to understand that when these two lads tabled their suggestion within the Council Chamber they took a kicking from all who were in attendance. I am aware of the views of Councillor Powell but Id like to know what our other Councillors think about the Rone/Atkinson proposal and explain to us why these two lads didn't receive any support for what was a thoroughly good and well intended suggestion. I'd like to know what our Councillors think about this issue and why it was that their suggestion was met with hostility. My view is that these two lads tried to break the mould and thought in a different way which is what I now want from our local leaders. I want free thinkers who are prepared to think outside the old ways of delivering democracy and approach local issues in an entirely different way. I believe, after some reflection, instead of hurling shouts of 'gimmicks' and other choice words of derision, I should have said, 'well done'. I'd be very grateful if our new Councillors would take the time to explain their views on this issue and perhaps shed some light upon why it was that they were subjected to a political kicking. My warmest regards to you all.

Good for you Mr Chappell, and in future, when we disagree, and we surely will, then you use all your literary skills and heap as much rancid rubbish upon my head as you wish. I never take things personally and, believe it or not, I often like getting a tongue lashing when I deserve it. Welcome to Hereford Voice. Mind, TwoWheels is right, I've noticed it. You've clumsily given me an extra vowel and pocketed a consonant. My handle ain't Booby47 and I'll be damned if I let this pass without saying, return my letter 'b' and keep your bloody 'o' to yourself. Once again, my very warmest regards to you.

Christopher, Councillor Glenda Powell never gets it wrong and never makes a mistake. That said, your new to these pages and you didn't know that. How would you know? It's not as if your handed a pamphlet and been able to read the rules so you are forgiven for your terse debut post. Don't beat yourself up over it. Don't feel compelled to apologise. In fact, don't give this silly mistake you've made a single backward glance. From hereon, as long as you fully grasp that Councillor Powell is held in high regard amongst this gathering of fools and she never gets anything wrong, then I don't see this as ever being an issue to be discussed again. My very warmest regards and I sincerely look forward to reading more evidence that you've ditched the lies and the spin that brought about the failed New Labour social engineering programme that's blighted each and everyone of us.

Colin, More than fair. I'll not have it said I'm an unreasonable man. I want it said, 'this was a reasonable man who often gave complete strangers a warm, loving and manly embrace'. Therefore, given Colin's message to me, I now completely retract everything I said earlier, and furthermore and whatsmore, I want to disassociate myself from anything that I said an hour or so ago. There! You can't be fairer than that!

Well I ain't going to be so welcoming and deliver our new colleagues a bucket of thanks simply for signing up and registering on these pages. If these good people are here to tick some box, gather a vote and from time to time say something bloody obvious but never transmit a thing of substance to me, they can get stuffed and I spit in their eye. Mind, if any of our new colleagues begin to transmit their views, take on board our views and don't simply go through the motions of writing a great deal but never saying anything of meaning at all, then and only then will I throw my arms around them, embrace them and say, 'thank you for joining Hereford Voice'. Mind, I'll say a special hello to Councillor Rone who I sincerely hope continues to think differently to those others who gave him and Councillor Atkinson a kicking for trying to change the culture from within.

As far as Im concerned the Council can get stuffed. Why give them more money to waste. During the last year or so this Council have handed over £180 thousand pounds of our money in order to facilitate the future silence of those who know the things that the Council wouldn't want you and I to know. Gagging clauses. They can get stuffed. More money? Stop feeding Hoople our funds. Stop sitting back and allow Amey to breach their contractual obligations and do nothing to get our money returned to us. Give this Council more money and they'll waste it. And this 'ageing population' thing they allways trot out. It's allways the ageing population. It's like the 'thousand jobs' or 'we are saving you millions' rubbish that they spoonfeed us every so often. Open your gobs and swallow this rubbish you fools. Ageing population my backside! It's very little to do with those who reach old age but all to do with the overwhelmingly vast number of European Union migrants who have arrived here for a better life. That's the reason our population is growing and it's nothing to do with the ageing population. Give this Council nothing. They've made there bed and now they can lie in it. Mismanagement and underhand practices!!!

Sadly, TwoWheels is right, this is entirely about directing whatever spending power we have left in this bereft of hope City, toward the new development. There, we'll spend our deminishing funds, we'll sit there in our new cinema muttering, 'thank God we lived to see this lovely cinema', and our money will leave the City, it'll be spent far away from our economy and little of the wages earned will be spent here and recycled within our own economy. That's pretty much the scenario that our economic model will take us. Shortsighted, opportunistic, economic madness and our only consolation will be, we can sit inside a cinema and contemplate when we can next see the kids who moved away long ago because they couldn't build a future on 19k a year salary because the Council, the big payers, were no longer recruiting.

A bloody amplifier, a tambourine, three chords and a badly strummed Gibson guitar will drive these new tenants into the open arms of Lucifer. I ain't got a problem with praying. If good people want to kneel beneath their beds, mutter the Lords Prayer and thank our Lord Jesus for a bag of carrots and a handful of ripe apples then its all fine by me. I'll not be the one to object to this perfectly acceptable way of communicating gratitude for whatever the day has brought the good, honest rate payers of our City. I mean, how many times can you sing 'Halleluzah, thank you Jesus, thank you Lord in the key of bloody 'G' and continue to believe that some will come rushing through the doors shouting, 'save me Jesus Im bloody ready.' We've gotta get back to a time when prayer was done in silence and the mutterings and chants didn't keep the neighbours awake and interrupt their viewing of Celebrity Come Dine With Me.

Biomech, My dear and good friend, I see you've been nibbling at my name, fiddled with me vowels and consonants and come up with 'bobbina' Well I ain't having it. You can get stuffed. If I let this pass, it'll catch on and then any fool can do what they like with me vowels and consonants. You know full well my personal views on this subject and I demand you take back the letter's I, n and a, and return my 'y'.

Bloody Hell Amey! Good grief. They've buggared up the surface of our once fair City and now they're going beneath it to buggar that up as well. It makes you want to spit. I mean, how long does a company have to badly perform before the contracts stop coming in through the letter box?

Of course, all things have to grow and expand but,...what we all have here is a wonderful place to discuss things. The problem is, sometimes by expanding its easy to lose the spirit of a thing and your own individual identity. Whilst I know and realise this probably has to be done, I really ain't so sure. Mind, I ain't so sure about anything nowadays so Im probably worth ignoring. Whatever you do with your creation Colin, the very best of luck in the next step you take.

Then it's sorted. I'm on my own. The argument is lost so lets get on and pass this message down to the next generation. If your ***, lesbian, disabled or different to you and me, they ain't bloody normal and they should quickly come to understand this conclusion and he happy they can enjoy equal rights and accept they can never be described as normal human beings. And anyone, which is pretty much everybody, who disagrees with me is a bloody rotter if anything I ever utter or transmit is worth a jot of bloody notice.

Good Lord. The list is growing. While we are at it, lets throw the disabled into the mix. We surely can't describe them as normal as us. This is good or, depending on your point of view, a very bad thing that exposes a side of ourselves that ain't to attractive.

Ubique, My dear and good friend, you aint supposed to disagree with me. This aint the way its supposed to be. You were supposed to write, 'Halleluzah! I'm with Bobby on this'. Take care my good and old friend.

Neil, I'll gladly sign it. I'll sign it in my own blood if needed and several times if its allowed. If there is anything I can do, short of giving you money, let me know, I'll gladly help out. My very warmest regards to you.

Since my colleague announced his/her arrival, I've been thinking about this issue and perhaps I am wrong in my personal approach to these very important social issues. What we could do, and it'd require some work, would be to gather up all our homosexual men, lesbian women, our bisexual community and those others who have some other sexual orientation and tell them that, 'whilst you all are not as normal as us, hence the reason we've gathered you all up here together in High Town, what's bloody left of it, we want you to know, that despite the fact you are not as normal as us, we want you to enjoy the same rights as everyone else. How about that Biomech? That'd be sure to sort the whole issue out. We could go further, instead of ticking the box that asks about sexual orientation, we could simply pose the question, 'Are you normal or are you abnormal'. That would cut down on administration and it'd certainly make the collation of social information more straightforward. Yeah! This idea of normality is beginning to win me over. Of course, when they protest and say,'this is unfair and we feel humiliated', we simply say, 'but your argument is flawed, you cannot have children. You need a normal person to produce your offspring which confirms why we now choose to call you abnormal'. That'd sort it all out!

Me? I like the Hereford Times and I like the site. I've got no problem with the Management and I've nothing but praise for the way they have shone a light upon the shadowy dealings of this unholy Council. I believed it was wrong to exclude you and still do. That said, you are a pain in the backside and you have orchestrated your own downfall because you can't say or do anything without causing bloody chaos and controversy.

This dilemma we are all faced with ain't the fault of those who choose to leave their homeland, travel to this Country and take full advantage of all our Country offers to give themselves and their families a better life. If I'd been brought up experiencing grinding poverty and the last remaining affects of communism then I'd be doing exactly the same thing. Giving my family the best possible chance to prosper and enjoy a better future. If New Labour had taken advantage of negotiating caps to the movement of people from within the EU we wouldn't be in this mess and having this discussion. As things stand, most sane people would acknowledge that the current model that relates to this issue is not sustainable and something will give sooner or later. That said, this is not the fault of the migrants. How can it be wrong to come here, take advantage of what's put in front of you, open shops, trade, create wealth for themselves and their Country and prosper. It ain't wrong and it ain't their fault. What's wrong is the delusion that this economic model was ever going to work in the first place. Vast sums of money are earned by EU migrants and its only right that they spend that money wherever they choose. The economic problem to us is our wealth is not being recycled. It's estimated that near on four billion pounds is directed out of our economy, sent home and is spent in foreign lands. There is no way that this economic model will ever work unless similar numbers of UK citizens leave the UK, settle and work in a foreign land and they send us four billion quid to spend in our economy. No Biomech. You are wrong. This is not the fault of migrants. It's the fault of politicians who are only now opening their eyes and fully comprehending the enormity of this social engineering experiment that will one day be acknowledged as the biggest mistake made since World War 2. The Euro currency will fold. Nations like Spain, Portugal and Ireland will rue the day they were asked to compete with the mighty Deutch Mark and when all the money that the EU is currently throwing at former communist states suddenly dries up, they'll look around, notice that all the roads and pavements are lovely but they go and lead to nowhere and then they'll realise that the games up, the money has gone and it was all a terrible man made mistake creating social, economic and political chaos.

No I'm bloody not old friend. I'm expressing my view which is different to yours, much easier to read, and without being patronising to my colleagues who may be bloody g.a.y, Im saying that they are as bloody normal as anyone else because they were born that way. Bloody Hell! You've been back with me for less than a day and you've done it again. Being bloody awkward, clumsy and obnoxious.

Folks...the deletion was the word...g...a..y. I don't want any of you thinking I printed something that was hurtful to anybody.

Bloody Hell! My dear and good friend. What are you doing? How did we get from being banished from the Hereford Times to questioning whether or not homosexuality was normal or not? Bloody Hell. People who are *** are completely normal because, to steal Stephanie Geomatta song title, they are 'born this way'. It ain't a question of normality. It's entirely about equality and not having your sexuality discussed by fools like you and I on Belmont Voice or any other social media site. Im calling the bloody strike off. You managed to cause my eczema to bloody flare up within twenty four hours of being here. Sweet Loving Jesus. I'll always think well of you but your a pain in the backside.

All of these 'stories' , whether its a letter in the Hereford Times reporting a sign in Arabic, the tragic murder of the young man in Ryeland Street, who's killers according to rumour, tittle tattle and innuendo were East European when they were not, they all take on a life of their own and before to long, hundreds of people have their views affected and opinions changed because of madness. And that's what it it. Madness! Every single time a Council house is given over to a migrant, a job goes to a migrant or there's an outbreak of bloody headlice, it's the fault of the migrants. I've had this discussion before. I think it was with our Rebecca. We've got real problems developing within our society. Have we in Hereford been subjected to a vast change in the make up of our social demographic? Yep! We have and my view is its put an unsustainable strain upon our much cherished and hard won public services, but it ain't the fault of the migrants, it ain't the fault of the indigenous population. It's the bloody fault of our politicians, particularly New Labour who've given us all this problem to solve. But, everytime I go down the pub, everyone and his dog, repeats these stories that get twisted, inflated, embellished and before to long everyone dislikes oneanother. It's bloody madness. Our leaders have got to start thinking, using their imagination, become forward looking and start to come up with ideas that nip this madness in the bud. We are where we are, and until our membership of the EU is finally resolved, we've gotta do things that promote closer links between our many ethnic groups and through dialogue we can all come to understand oneanother and avoid this horrible human trait that always emerges when we experience hard times, we become frightened, we don't understand oneanother, it's us and them and nobody says or does a thing to halt our slide toward intolerance. It ain't a problem exclusive to us the host Country. Every human that walks, crawls in any society, in the world is the same. We don't trust oneanother and when another group settle on our land we start to bloody panic and think of ways to make ourselves more wary about another tribe who live round the corner. We are bloody doomed unless somebody does something. Me? I've got no time for the EDL, Amjen Choudrey and anyone else who taps into this weakness that we all have....wanting to be scared and wanting to identify a group to fear or be wary of.

Flamboyant, Hello mate. Biomech has registered here today. I'm hoping he/ she will let us know what's going on. As for the 'strike' action, it continues until the Management meet our demands or slip me a backhander resulting in me selling you all down the river and crossing my own picket line. My warmest regards.

My God! I've just this minute logged in and I can see that there are a whole bunch of H.T. Posters who've registered with Colin James and the good people of Belmont Voice. To those who don't pay any attention to the Hereford Times Posters, and personally speaking I can't blame you, we've gone on strike. Our demands were to not pay us, give us no fringe benefits, treat us with the contempt we all deserved and reinstate one of our comrades who'd been banished into the ether. The management of the Hereford Times had no difficulty whatsoever in agreeing to the first three demands but alas, thus far, they have refused to release the rotting corpse of our fellow poster who was thrown off the site and allow him/her to be reinstated. Untill they reinstate this poster or at the very least post us his finger, a toe or better still, his right clubbed foot, we have downed tools, not that we have any, and are refusing to post. Sadly for the good people of Belmont Voice, the banished poster and his/her colleagues have built there nest here amongst you.