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Going back to the figures..... It is stated that for phase one, £250,000 needs to be raised - this is the phase that was expected to be open three years ago. Looking at the fundraising diagram, it shows that about half of this has been raised. It does not make clear if this includes the following grants. 1.£75,000 from Herefordshire Council. 2.£30,000 offered by Hereford City Council. 3.CEMEX have offered just under £10,000. This totals £115,000. If this figure is included in the fundraising target, ie, the halfway mark, then everything does indeed appear to have ground to a halt. This may give some indication of just how long it will take to fundraise the rest.

Is that cannot get involved....or, will not get involved...????

I note that within the business plan it states in its objectives, that it should be open to the community for use by September 2011. I have sent a message to Jim Kenyon asking if he has any up to date information on this project. Hopefully we may hear back.

Thanks again Megilleland! Reading through this, and other information, it seems that in 2010, they were given consent for a change of use, and drew up a four year plan. So far so good. Here we are in 2014, so four years on, and very little appears to have been done. Looking at figures, it looks as if they are only halfway to raising the target figure.(I am unsure as to whether this includes any grants/funding they have applied for.) So when do they anticipate that this building will function again in whatever guise?? I am not knocking any community initiative, but when it has stalled for as long as this it does become a ridiculous situation - particularly for those who are becoming increasingly frustrated at having to look at it! I can well understand why some residents now feel that with no obvious end in sight, consideration should be given to other interested parties, who could improve things significantly quicker! A quick email to a resident, found that The Whitehouse seems to currently be used for storage of equipment, for other more "high profile" events/activities which take place in other areas of Tupsley.

This has been going on for four years. Its no wonder local residents are cheesed off with looking at it!! Hi Megilleland - I am not sure how Tupsley is split up! Reading the above, it would appear that Whittern Way is "North Tupsley".Residents I spoke to referred to the area as "Whittern Way". So I am a tad confused! Folks were saying to me, that they felt little bits of "nice areas" of Tupsley seem to be getting an awful lot of attention, whilst those who reside in Whittern Way feel like the poor relations!! (And thanks for the links!!)

The Pub was purchased by the council, and is leased to St Pauls PCC for a peppercorn rent of £275. per annum. So whose decision should it be, if a local business are interested in buying it at market value, and re opening it???

I did google it, Aylestone Voice! Even with my technical incompetence I managed that. I googled The Whitehouse Hereford, and found it was bought by a church group, but the date on that was 2012 - two years ago. I am afraid I have never done Facebook, and probably never will. I asked the question, in the hope someone who is local to the area could give an up to date answer. If you have information, please share.

Brilliant Paul! I have been reading up on the background to this, via your excellent site. A reluctance to part with any information, decisions made by just one or two people, closing ranks and keeping quiet.....blimey, Hereford and The Wirral have so much in common! Quite frightening really, that up and down the country, this appears to be acceptable behaviour and normal practise.

I have an idea Biomech! The next time you get junk mail, with a pre-paid envelope for your response, might I suggest you stick it on a black bag and post it?? Kill two birds with one stone - it will deter the sender of the unwanted post, when they receive your "rubbish" response, and help keep your black bag allowance within the limit!! It could also do wonders for your blood pressure!!

By the way, thanks Colin for creating a new thread for this!

Sorry, H, I am unable to provide a pic! A family I know have had a few health related issues recently, so I volunteered to walk their dog a couple of times, hence my visit to this part of Hereford. I have spoken to several residents who live within spitting distance of this building, and all without exception are sick to the back teeth of looking at this. It would seem that the more affluent areas of Tupsley are taking priority, in regard to councillors time and energy. Residents that I talked to feel that if there is an option on the table for this to be re opened and used(not to mention making good use of the living accommodation above)this would be preferable. Looking at it myself I completely agree with them. One resident who views this every time they look out of their window, said they thought the pub had been bought by a community group, but did not know which one. The resident who told me about the offer from The Cock of Tupsley, said they were astounded that an offer such as this could be rejected without seemingly any discussion. It may well be that a community group bought it, with plans to create some sort of community centre, but are now lacking in the finance department. If this is the case, surely if the community this building is supposed to be for wants it open, used and maintained - whether as a centre or a business - their views should be taken into consideration. At the very least, some sort of time frame needs to be communicated to the residents who have to live with this on their doorsteps day in and day out. As one local put it..."I can't see them putting up with this in other areas of Tupsley." So.....let's hear what the plans are please!!!

That's really good to hear Hillbilly!! (And Flam's only a little bit scary!!!)

Appease Dippy???? Good Grief Flam - I am not a monster!!!!!

Hi Hillbilly! Thank you so much for taking the time to add your thoughts on this! We had a bit of a discussion about this the other week on a different thread didn't we?? From my own perspective, disagreeing about things is part of life, and new posters should not give two hoots about upsetting the apple cart,,,,it makes for a much more readable debate! As for appearing stupid.....folks don't come more daft than me, and I muddle through! Do you think that perhaps now you have dipped a toe in the water you might feel more like contributing more regularly now?? I am interested to hear how you feel, now that you have started posting????

Thanks for posting that update Hillbilly, much appreciated.

There is a way of testing that theory Cambo.....the regulars don't post! We could try it for a month or so and monitor the activity levels!!

Hi George! Nice to hear from you again! The threads you refer to all have one thing in common - lots of people contributed! (I would also add that topics such as the bullying of council staff/ The IT contracts debacle/ Saving The Working Boys Home Campaign, have been very important ones.) It is this variety of views that make for an informative and lively discussion, wouldn't you agree?? There is only so much a dozen or so can do....without more folks regularly adding to the mix, it ain't going to get any better!! I fully accept, and have said before, that not all threads are going to strike a chord with all members....but surely to offer up an opinion now and again, shouldn't be asking too much?? The HT has very few regular contributors these days....if Hereford Voice goes the same way it will be a great loss.

Tee Hee! I am not so sure Mr G Knight would agree with you Cambo! I think I got on his nerves!! But thanks for the kind words anyway! Seriously though, Hereford Voice really does need more input from a wider circle of posters......this is a community resource, it needs to be used!!

Does the Tupsley Community Group now own the old "Whitehouse Pub" up at Whittern Way?? Or is it owned by some other group?? I ask, because it is an absolute eye sore....a magnet for vandalism and appears to have been empty for months if not years with no clear plan for what it's future holds. I had a conversation today the gist of which was the good folks who run The Cock Of Tupsley very successfully, have enquired about buying it, as they would like to re open it, and run it as an extension to their thriving business. No. Was the answer. Apparently just one person gets to say "No". No committee meeting, no vote, just one persons say so.(Who does that remind you of???) So whoever does own this.....either get it tidied up, and open....or let someone else do it!!! Letting it fall into an even greater state of disrepair should not be an option!

Well. I guess I can now answer my own question......yes, it absolutely is possible to post too much! Since I first started this thread, about 25 new members have signed up, and with the notable exceptions of Growl Tiger and Paul Cardin who have become regular contributors here, the amount of posts added in the past 4 months ???? 28. Yes just 28 comments. Which leads me to the conclusion that in comparison I do post too much. Far too much! Time for a re think on my recruitment strategy perhaps......!!

My goodness me, Chris Bull! I am intrigued! I cannot wait to hear the December 1st update! I know absolutely nothing about football, and do not pretend to understand the complexities of all that has occurred. But I DO recognise when facts are being skewed. I take my hat off to you for trying to get to the bottom of this. Surely it should not be beyond the wit of the council to issue a straightforward statement which clearly states what they know, when they knew it, and what future proposals are up for discussion. Have they not realised that shrouding everything in secrecy only makes everyone more suspicious of their motives??

I am pleased to see that this is gaining some publicity and press coverage. Perhaps folks will now begin to wake up to what is happening. It will certainly add some weight to Guy Taylors claims about the chain of events he has suffered at the hands of banks.

I think I probably speak for quite a few when I say how much I appreciate the time and effort you are putting into this Paul.

Yes GridKnocker - this number is not really a true reflection of the strength of feeling against this. It's the same with the petition - 349 signatures, but will only count as one objection. This anomaly should be highlighted.

There were tears on Strictly tonight. There's no escaping them. Kleenex will soon be sponsoring them at this rate. Meanwhile, over at X Factor, it was eighties week. Allegedly. I love the eighties. I didn't recognise a single tune after they had put the inevitable "updated twist" on it. More tears. This time, mine.